Comments on: Prospects by Position – Second Base http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:29:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: beau http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1251 beau Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:43:09 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1251 The Cards invested in 2B in the June draft: Curtis, Luna if he moves back to the position next season, Castellanos, and Lilley. Curtis does not have the arm for 3rd, so will get converted, as Descalso did. Curtis and Castellanos, we invested in 2B in the most recent draft in rounds 5 and 10. Hoffpauir is on the cusp. If there were an injury, he could be called up. Or he could get traded. The Cards would prefer to obtain some value for him, one way or the other. The Cards invested in 2B in the June draft: Curtis, Luna if he moves back to the position next season, Castellanos, and Lilley. Curtis does not have the arm for 3rd, so will get converted, as Descalso did. Curtis and Castellanos, we invested in 2B in the most recent draft in rounds 5 and 10.

Hoffpauir is on the cusp. If there were an injury, he could be called up. Or he could get traded. The Cards would prefer to obtain some value for him, one way or the other.

]]> By: fewgoodcards http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 fewgoodcards Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:14:10 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1248 i wouldn't mind at all a middle infield of kozma and vasquez. kozma could develop into a solid #1 or 2 hitter and defensive ace, and vasquez will hopefully develop into a quality middle of the order bat. i'm really liking that infield if wallace is able to stay at third. i know this is a very long way off and has virtually no chance of happening, but i would like this lineup daryl jones lf colby rasmus cf albert pujols 1b rick ankiel rf brett wallace 3b niko vasquez 2b yadier molina c pete kozma ss that lineup is a little lefty heavy, but you have two dynamic talents at the top with plenty of pop in the middle and contact bats at the end. you also have a great defensive team except third base. jones, rasmus, and ankiel give you three center field quality defenders in it. then you add a gold glover at first in pujols, a future gold glover at catcher, and kozma at short who is considered an above average defensive shortstop. i wouldn’t mind at all a middle infield of kozma and vasquez. kozma could develop into a solid #1 or 2 hitter and defensive ace, and vasquez will hopefully develop into a quality middle of the order bat. i’m really liking that infield if wallace is able to stay at third.

i know this is a very long way off and has virtually no chance of happening, but i would like this lineup

daryl jones lf
colby rasmus cf
albert pujols 1b
rick ankiel rf
brett wallace 3b
niko vasquez 2b
yadier molina c
pete kozma ss

that lineup is a little lefty heavy, but you have two dynamic talents at the top with plenty of pop in the middle and contact bats at the end. you also have a great defensive team except third base. jones, rasmus, and ankiel give you three center field quality defenders in it. then you add a gold glover at first in pujols, a future gold glover at catcher, and kozma at short who is considered an above average defensive shortstop.

]]> By: roarke http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1247 roarke Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:04:34 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1247 Luna was left off because he hasn't played a game at second yet for the Cardinals. I suppose it is possible that they are just letting him get his feet wet professionally this year and will work on him being a full-time 2B during the winter and spring, but since he was never a full-time 2B in college and hasn't done it at all for the Cardinals I think it's ok that he's off the list for now. Luna was left off because he hasn’t played a game at second yet for the Cardinals. I suppose it is possible that they are just letting him get his feet wet professionally this year and will work on him being a full-time 2B during the winter and spring, but since he was never a full-time 2B in college and hasn’t done it at all for the Cardinals I think it’s ok that he’s off the list for now.

]]> By: Hugo http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1246 Hugo Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:56:49 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1246 Why not just flip flop the two every so often? I am joking obviously but having both Kozma and Niko able to play both MIF positions adequately wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Why not just flip flop the two every so often? I am joking obviously but having both Kozma and Niko able to play both MIF positions adequately wouldn’t be a bad thing at all.

]]> By: UncleBuck44 http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1244 UncleBuck44 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:44:56 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1244 The Cardinals best potential 2nd baseman(outside of Dan "the Man"/"future hall of famer" Descalso) could be playing SS right now for Johnson City, Niko Vasquez. If Peter Kozma progresses well both at the plate and in the field, Vasquez will have to move although he's doing a darn fine job offensively and defensively for JC so maybe Kozma will be the one doing the moving. Vasquez's only weakness at shortstop is range and it isn't supposed to totally ruin his chances of staying there. Kozma v. Vasquez could be an interesting battle to keep an eye on over the next 2-3 years. The loser could very well be the Cardinals 2nd baseman of the future. The Cardinals best potential 2nd baseman(outside of Dan “the Man”/”future hall of famer” Descalso) could be playing SS right now for Johnson City, Niko Vasquez. If Peter Kozma progresses well both at the plate and in the field, Vasquez will have to move although he’s doing a darn fine job offensively and defensively for JC so maybe Kozma will be the one doing the moving. Vasquez’s only weakness at shortstop is range and it isn’t supposed to totally ruin his chances of staying there.
Kozma v. Vasquez could be an interesting battle to keep an eye on over the next 2-3 years. The loser could very well be the Cardinals 2nd baseman of the future.

]]> By: Tom http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1243 Tom Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:29:57 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1243 No Aaron Luna? I know he's been playing outfield lately... but ya gotta hope he can play 2nd. No Aaron Luna? I know he’s been playing outfield lately… but ya gotta hope he can play 2nd.

]]> By: Rockin' the Red http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1242 Rockin' the Red Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:21:26 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1242 Baseball Prospectus says the Cardinals are shopping around the Triple-A ranks for the next Ryan Ludwick, but I don't understand why they don't give Brian Barden a look. He was a touted prospect a couple of years ago, and now he's showing good on-base ability and decent pop. He's developing late, just like Ludwick. I'm confident Hoffpauir will finally get some playing time when the roster expands. Let him play everyday in Memphis for now. Baseball Prospectus says the Cardinals are shopping around the Triple-A ranks for the next Ryan Ludwick, but I don’t understand why they don’t give Brian Barden a look. He was a touted prospect a couple of years ago, and now he’s showing good on-base ability and decent pop. He’s developing late, just like Ludwick.

I’m confident Hoffpauir will finally get some playing time when the roster expands. Let him play everyday in Memphis for now.

]]> By: Lou Schuler http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1241 Lou Schuler Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:11:36 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1241 Sorry, I meant to credit Roarke! Sorry, I meant to credit Roarke!

]]> By: Lou Schuler http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1240 Lou Schuler Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:10:07 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1240 Nice roundup, Erik. My hunch is that the next major-league second baseman to come out of the Cards' org will be one of the guys currently playing (or recently signed to play) short or third: Nico Vasquez, Gerardo Mannbel (currently 5th in OPS in the VSL), Jermaine Curtis, etc. That's assuming Wallace sticks at third and the Cards don't change their strategy of using a groundball-oriented pitching staff, which requires a defense-first shortstop. Nice roundup, Erik.

My hunch is that the next major-league second baseman to come out of the Cards’ org will be one of the guys currently playing (or recently signed to play) short or third: Nico Vasquez, Gerardo Mannbel (currently 5th in OPS in the VSL), Jermaine Curtis, etc.

That’s assuming Wallace sticks at third and the Cards don’t change their strategy of using a groundball-oriented pitching staff, which requires a defense-first shortstop.

]]> By: Pitchers Hit Eighth http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/07/16/prospects-position-base/comment-page-1/#comment-1238 Pitchers Hit Eighth Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:45:28 +0000 http://futureredbirds.wordpress.com/?p=1485#comment-1238 I think Hoffpauir and Barden have to at least get a cup of coffee in September. Depends on what the Cards do at the deadline (if anything) with regard to middle infield. I think Hoffpauir and Barden have to at least get a cup of coffee in September. Depends on what the Cards do at the deadline (if anything) with regard to middle infield.

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