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		<title>By: AP5</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/09/02/daily-farm-report-9208/comment-page-1/#comment-2563</link>
		<dc:creator>AP5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s too bad about Garcia.

As for Wallace, I hope the Cards leave Brett Wallace at AA for most of next season, no matter what kind of numbers he puts up.  Then come August promote him to AAA and possibly a September callup depending on how well he is doing.  Have Allen Craig start out the year in AA in LF and then in May promote him to AAA.  That would make David Freese the odd man out and he would either be on the bench or traded for another prospect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s too bad about Garcia.</p>
<p>As for Wallace, I hope the Cards leave Brett Wallace at AA for most of next season, no matter what kind of numbers he puts up.  Then come August promote him to AAA and possibly a September callup depending on how well he is doing.  Have Allen Craig start out the year in AA in LF and then in May promote him to AAA.  That would make David Freese the odd man out and he would either be on the bench or traded for another prospect.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Again, just playing devil’s advocate, as I’m sure it was a question that was in a lot of the readers’ heads.&quot;

I don&#039;t think I have all the answers, so those were questions in my own head and that led me to try to get the full story on Kopp.

One difference between Kopp and Maddux that I&#039;m not sure is significant is that Kopp&#039;s elbow is bent 90 degrees at the high-cocked position while Maddux&#039;s is bent more like 135 degrees. I&#039;m not yet convinced that that is significant, but you could argue that a 90 degree bend in the elbow at the high-cocked position, while widely advocated, isn&#039;t ideal because it could theoretically increase the load on both the elbow and the shoulder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, just playing devil’s advocate, as I’m sure it was a question that was in a lot of the readers’ heads.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I have all the answers, so those were questions in my own head and that led me to try to get the full story on Kopp.</p>
<p>One difference between Kopp and Maddux that I&#8217;m not sure is significant is that Kopp&#8217;s elbow is bent 90 degrees at the high-cocked position while Maddux&#8217;s is bent more like 135 degrees. I&#8217;m not yet convinced that that is significant, but you could argue that a 90 degree bend in the elbow at the high-cocked position, while widely advocated, isn&#8217;t ideal because it could theoretically increase the load on both the elbow and the shoulder.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s good info Chris. I am pretty angry if that is true about Kopp, he was a favorite of mine and your analysis confirmed why. Now this. Ugh. 

As for Lynn, I figured it was a fatigue thing. Again, just playing devil&#039;s advocate, as I&#039;m sure it was a question that was in a lot of the readers&#039; heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s good info Chris. I am pretty angry if that is true about Kopp, he was a favorite of mine and your analysis confirmed why. Now this. Ugh. </p>
<p>As for Lynn, I figured it was a fatigue thing. Again, just playing devil&#8217;s advocate, as I&#8217;m sure it was a question that was in a lot of the readers&#8217; heads.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/09/02/daily-farm-report-9208/comment-page-1/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m following the Kopp situation with some interest, the issue is that not all of his problems are necessarily due to things that happened on the field (which confounds things). I also know that at various points (at the college and pro level) people have tried to tweak Kopp&#039;s mechanics in order to get a few more MPH out of him. This can easily lead to timing and other problems. He may no longer be the pitcher that he was back in the Spring of 2007.

I have some video of Kopp from March that I need to take a look at.

When I saw him then he was hitting 92 or 93 but with poor control. He had to back off to 90 or 91 to throw strikes. It could be that the effort to hit 93 pushed him over the edge either in terms of his mechanics (e.g. timing) or what his body can handle.

The issue with Lynn is that he&#039;s never pitched this much, this hard in his life. Many guys hit bumps in the road after pitching a full college season and then playing in the pro Summer (and Winter) leagues. He could be dealing with fatigue problems.

I&#039;m monitoring both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m following the Kopp situation with some interest, the issue is that not all of his problems are necessarily due to things that happened on the field (which confounds things). I also know that at various points (at the college and pro level) people have tried to tweak Kopp&#8217;s mechanics in order to get a few more MPH out of him. This can easily lead to timing and other problems. He may no longer be the pitcher that he was back in the Spring of 2007.</p>
<p>I have some video of Kopp from March that I need to take a look at.</p>
<p>When I saw him then he was hitting 92 or 93 but with poor control. He had to back off to 90 or 91 to throw strikes. It could be that the effort to hit 93 pushed him over the edge either in terms of his mechanics (e.g. timing) or what his body can handle.</p>
<p>The issue with Lynn is that he&#8217;s never pitched this much, this hard in his life. Many guys hit bumps in the road after pitching a full college season and then playing in the pro Summer (and Winter) leagues. He could be dealing with fatigue problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m monitoring both of them.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2008/09/02/daily-farm-report-9208/comment-page-1/#comment-2533</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to play devil&#039;s advocate Chris, you also said you loved the mechanics of Kopp and Lynn, and both of those guys are now on the shelf, and from what I understand Kopp&#039;s situation could be serious (labrum)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate Chris, you also said you loved the mechanics of Kopp and Lynn, and both of those guys are now on the shelf, and from what I understand Kopp&#8217;s situation could be serious (labrum)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris O'Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said back at the end of July, Jaime Garcia&#039;s mechanics suck..

- http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/JaimeGarcia.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said back at the end of July, Jaime Garcia&#8217;s mechanics suck..</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/JaimeGarcia.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/JaimeGarcia.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Birdswin-That&#039;s not true at all, I for one am one of Boggs&#039; biggest supporters, and I might even have him ranked higher than Mortensen. 

As for ERA and WHIP, those stats are highly flawed b/c they lump together a large string of individual events made by multiple players, eg the pitcher, hitter and the defense. making it extremely tough to separate the credit for the pitcher, hitter, or defense. WHIP and ERA fail to account for the actual contributions of the pitcher. Most pitchers&#039; ability to influence balls in play is relatively weak.

The reason why I pointed out his FIP (fielding independent pitching ERA) because those are situations he has control over. It&#039;s a more useful estimate of a pitcher&#039;s ability than ERA because it focuses on strikeouts, walks, hit batsman and homers, not on what his fielders did. And in Boggs case, he still had a good season, albeit not a great one. He was much better peripherally speaking than Mortensen, to be sure. 

Like I said, I like Boggs. He makes all his starts, has a pretty nasty sinker but has inconsistent secondary stuff. If he could hone his curve and change up, I think he&#039;ll be a very solid #4 starter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Birdswin-That&#8217;s not true at all, I for one am one of Boggs&#8217; biggest supporters, and I might even have him ranked higher than Mortensen. </p>
<p>As for ERA and WHIP, those stats are highly flawed b/c they lump together a large string of individual events made by multiple players, eg the pitcher, hitter and the defense. making it extremely tough to separate the credit for the pitcher, hitter, or defense. WHIP and ERA fail to account for the actual contributions of the pitcher. Most pitchers&#8217; ability to influence balls in play is relatively weak.</p>
<p>The reason why I pointed out his FIP (fielding independent pitching ERA) because those are situations he has control over. It&#8217;s a more useful estimate of a pitcher&#8217;s ability than ERA because it focuses on strikeouts, walks, hit batsman and homers, not on what his fielders did. And in Boggs case, he still had a good season, albeit not a great one. He was much better peripherally speaking than Mortensen, to be sure. </p>
<p>Like I said, I like Boggs. He makes all his starts, has a pretty nasty sinker but has inconsistent secondary stuff. If he could hone his curve and change up, I think he&#8217;ll be a very solid #4 starter.</p>
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		<title>By: PA Redbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>PA Redbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batavia&#039;s Chris Swauger has come on strong after a slow start.  August numbers:  avg.  .375;  obp .430; slg .583; ops 1.014 in 

not sure why he is still batting in the bottom third of the line up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batavia&#8217;s Chris Swauger has come on strong after a slow start.  August numbers:  avg.  .375;  obp .430; slg .583; ops 1.014 in </p>
<p>not sure why he is still batting in the bottom third of the line up.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am almost glad he is having such a relatively simple surgery, it could have been much worse.  I was hoping to see him make the staff in 09 but now 10 looks better, but lets remember Josh Kinney&#039;s problems coming back and don&#039;t count on anything till 11.  Garcia needs to get healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am almost glad he is having such a relatively simple surgery, it could have been much worse.  I was hoping to see him make the staff in 09 but now 10 looks better, but lets remember Josh Kinney&#8217;s problems coming back and don&#8217;t count on anything till 11.  Garcia needs to get healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ve all been holding our breathe with Garcia since they shut him down last season. I don&#039;t see where the organization handled him wrong. He&#039;s got one of those elbows. Hope he recovers for 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ve all been holding our breathe with Garcia since they shut him down last season. I don&#8217;t see where the organization handled him wrong. He&#8217;s got one of those elbows. Hope he recovers for 2010.</p>
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