Comments on: Three young pitchers I like for 2009 http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/ Baseballs Future in the Gateway City Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:03:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: erik http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5497 erik Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:33:10 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5497 @Matt, while his ERA's where night and day between PB and SPR, his tRA*'s have been the same at about both stops. I'll believe a breakthrough when i see it, but I think Law got it right. Ottavino is a reliever. I hope I'm wrong, b/c he's a really nice kid. @Matt, while his ERA’s where night and day between PB and SPR, his tRA*’s have been the same at about both stops. I’ll believe a breakthrough when i see it, but I think Law got it right. Ottavino is a reliever.

I hope I’m wrong, b/c he’s a really nice kid.

]]> By: Matt http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5495 Matt Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:22:50 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5495 What's your guys take on Goold's blurb on Ottavino? He's seemed to be perpetually on the verge since the cards drafted him with some really inconsistent results (even inning-to-inning) but still showing some dominance on occasion. What’s your guys take on Goold’s blurb on Ottavino? He’s seemed to be perpetually on the verge since the cards drafted him with some really inconsistent results (even inning-to-inning) but still showing some dominance on occasion.

]]> By: jstrange http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5489 jstrange Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:38:58 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5489 @Grant.....good call on North. Forgot all about him. Can someone elaborate on Veres? Scouting report, stats, etc.? @Grant…..good call on North. Forgot all about him. Can someone elaborate on Veres? Scouting report, stats, etc.?

]]> By: Grant http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5488 Grant Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:31:07 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5488 Matt North - Drafted out of HS in 06, didn't pitch much until last season, where he had good success at Johnson City. I'd guess he'll start at Batavia this season. Still only 20 years old. Jon Bravo - Small pitcher, big strikeout ability. 48 K, only 2 HR allowed, in 35 IP last season. If he becomes a full-time reliever, which seems likely, he could move fairly quickly up the ladder, IMO. Lefties that can strike guys out are pretty valuable, no matter what size they are. Adam Veres - 49th-round pick in 08. Looking like a good choice so far. Prototypical pitcher's frame at 6-4 230. Pretty impressive numbers last season split between Johnson City and Batavia. Will only be 21 this season. Matt North – Drafted out of HS in 06, didn’t pitch much until last season, where he had good success at Johnson City. I’d guess he’ll start at Batavia this season. Still only 20 years old.

Jon Bravo – Small pitcher, big strikeout ability. 48 K, only 2 HR allowed, in 35 IP last season. If he becomes a full-time reliever, which seems likely, he could move fairly quickly up the ladder, IMO. Lefties that can strike guys out are pretty valuable, no matter what size they are.

Adam Veres – 49th-round pick in 08. Looking like a good choice so far. Prototypical pitcher’s frame at 6-4 230. Pretty impressive numbers last season split between Johnson City and Batavia. Will only be 21 this season.

]]> By: jstrange http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5485 jstrange Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:35:24 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5485 Very interesting post, indeed. And well written/researched as well. Thanks Erik. Just my two cents on this subject, but a few more names I'd like to throw out as arms that I have hopes for breaking out: -Brett Zawacki: I realize he's put up some pretty lousy numbers so far to date, but the kid's got a live arm and big frame. Hoping to see him bust out this year. -Sam Freeman: To me there's no way he's in the rotation at all. But with his athleticism and live arm, I think he could move quickly and competently as a reliever. Needs to refine command and establish a breaking pitch. -David Carpenter: Call me sentimental, but I'm all for the idea of converting strong-armed/no hit catchers to the mound. Just seems kinda obvious to me. The guy presumably ought to have a good understanding on how to attack hitters and it has been repeatedly noted that he has a live arm. Relief option at best and would most likely require some seasoning to fine tune his command, arsenal, etc. but I like this gamble. Obviously I've never seen any of these guys throw at all; I'm going off of scouting reports, stats, etc. Just gut feelings, you know? Also, I'm curious as to who are some of the Latin names that might cause a stir this upcoming season. Castillo made a name for himself after coming out of nowhere, and Moises Colorado is another name that I've heard as to having good potential. Franco got the big payday last year (he's still very young though). Any other names that may intrigue? Very interesting post, indeed. And well written/researched as well. Thanks Erik.

Just my two cents on this subject, but a few more names I’d like to throw out as arms that I have hopes for breaking out:

-Brett Zawacki: I realize he’s put up some pretty lousy numbers so far to date, but the kid’s got a live arm and big frame. Hoping to see him bust out this year.

-Sam Freeman: To me there’s no way he’s in the rotation at all. But with his athleticism and live arm, I think he could move quickly and competently as a reliever. Needs to refine command and establish a breaking pitch.

-David Carpenter: Call me sentimental, but I’m all for the idea of converting strong-armed/no hit catchers to the mound. Just seems kinda obvious to me. The guy presumably ought to have a good understanding on how to attack hitters and it has been repeatedly noted that he has a live arm. Relief option at best and would most likely require some seasoning to fine tune his command, arsenal, etc. but I like this gamble.

Obviously I’ve never seen any of these guys throw at all; I’m going off of scouting reports, stats, etc. Just gut feelings, you know? Also, I’m curious as to who are some of the Latin names that might cause a stir this upcoming season. Castillo made a name for himself after coming out of nowhere, and Moises Colorado is another name that I’ve heard as to having good potential. Franco got the big payday last year (he’s still very young though). Any other names that may intrigue?

]]> By: Chris http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5474 Chris Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:44:19 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5474 There's quite a bit to like about Diapoules, all things considered. He was 19 until May 31st last season, and performed (as Erik said) very well in the Midwest League. His numbers in the FSL weren't great, but consider a couple of things: first he was barely 20 years old, which is very young for that league. Second, he got roughed up in his final two starts, allowing 17 hits and 12 ER's in 8.2 innings, and still finished with a 4.29 ERA in the FSL. Up to that point, he had been very, very good in that league as well. My guess is that he was tiring out a little as his first full season of pro ball ended. I expect nice things from him this year. There’s quite a bit to like about Diapoules, all things considered. He was 19 until May 31st last season, and performed (as Erik said) very well in the Midwest League. His numbers in the FSL weren’t great, but consider a couple of things: first he was barely 20 years old, which is very young for that league. Second, he got roughed up in his final two starts, allowing 17 hits and 12 ER’s in 8.2 innings, and still finished with a 4.29 ERA in the FSL. Up to that point, he had been very, very good in that league as well.

My guess is that he was tiring out a little as his first full season of pro ball ended. I expect nice things from him this year.

]]> By: Joe http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5472 Joe Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:54:11 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5472 We released Pomeranz last May and he hung it up. http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/754493.html Didn't pitch in 2008. http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/stuart-pomeranz.shtml We released Pomeranz last May and he hung it up.
http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/754493.html

Didn’t pitch in 2008.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/P/stuart-pomeranz.shtml

]]> By: Matt http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5471 Matt Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:35:44 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5471 It sounds like Diapoules has more upside than I thought, and may be Duncan's type of pitcher, if he's even around if Mark makes it. Has he grown in the last year or so? Baseball Cube and the Cardinals' draft results both list him at an even 6-foot, while milb.com has him at 6'2". Off-topic, but what ever happened to Stu Pomeranz? Is he done? It sounds like Diapoules has more upside than I thought, and may be Duncan’s type of pitcher, if he’s even around if Mark makes it. Has he grown in the last year or so? Baseball Cube and the Cardinals’ draft results both list him at an even 6-foot, while milb.com has him at 6′2″.

Off-topic, but what ever happened to Stu Pomeranz? Is he done?

]]> By: Gruntosaurus http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5470 Gruntosaurus Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:25:58 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5470 Why is throwing across the body so hard to fix? Isn't that what good pitching coaches are for? Why is throwing across the body so hard to fix? Isn’t that what good pitching coaches are for?

]]> By: The Personal Finance Playbook http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/02/20/young-pitchers-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5469 The Personal Finance Playbook Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:34:43 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=2327#comment-5469 That sucked - but it was a worthwhile gamble. An economist would say that the kid is underemployed. That sucked – but it was a worthwhile gamble. An economist would say that the kid is underemployed.

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