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The system for the night: shutout loss, shutout loss, victory, loss.
- There were 6 hits for Memphis, all singles. The club drew 0 walks.
- All said, PJ Walters pitched a pretty darn good game. He went 8.1 innings striking out 4 and walking 2. He allowed just 6 hits and 1 earned run (5 total). He recorded 13 groundouts. There’s nothing there to indicate he wasn’t pitching well.
- Charlie Manning, however, let all three inherited runners score and gave up another run for good measure while trying to record the final 2 outs.
- The S-Cardinals got 3 hit. Eff.
- Daniel Descalso went 1-for-3 with a walk and was the only player to reach base twice.
- Tyler Herron is far too hittable. 8 hits in 4.1 innings. He struck out 7 and walked 2 while allowing 5 ER.
- Marco Gonzalez allowed 2 ER in his inning of work.
- Shane Peterson was 2-for-4.
- Chris Swauger was 1-for-3 with a HR and a walk.
- Brian Broderick was tagged for 10 hits in 6 innings. This is going to annoy some people but I still think it’s true. The Cardinals have a tendency to draft a lot of pitchers with good stats but mediocre stuff. When those pitchers pitch, they give up more hits because they’re dependent on the defense and their stuff doesn’t fool batters. That may or may not have been the case in this game, but, on balance, I believe it’s true for a lot of the pitching farmhands. I digress; somehow Broderick only allowed 2 runs (1 earned).
- Chuckie Fick pitched 2 innings allowing 1 unearned run.
- Casey Mulligan allowed 2 hits, 1 walk, 1 K and 1 ER in his inning of work.
- Brett Lilley was 0-for-5 with 3 strikeouts.
- Alex Castellanos was 2-for-5 with a double.
- Charles Cutler was 2-for-4 with a HR.
- Hector Cardenas struck out 5 in 5 innings. He walked 1 and allowed 4 hits but no earned runs.
- Andres Rosales pitched the 6th but couldn’t get out of he 7th. With is 1 IP, he allowed 5 ER.
- Jason Buursma added another scoreless frame to his tally.
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The Redbird bats really looked hot out there today. It appears that there are a couple position players that the organization really needs to consider releasing along moving a certain 2nd baseman up from Springfield. This is the 3rd year for JH at Memphis and he has steadily regressed. He is never going to get any better.
I relation to K Greene. Don’t be surprised if he is never activated off the DL and is released by the organization as well.
redbird … yesterday you said they were thinking about calling up Wallace. I really doubt that this is the last we’ve seen of K.Greene in a STL uniform this season. He’s not going to be straight up released … I’ll put money on that.
The top of the ninth in Memphis was just ugly. Wasn’t the fault of either pitcher in any way…they had to get *SEVEN* outs in the inning.
The only hit was a bloop double that barely stayed fair in right. Then Pagnozzi threw to third on a sacrifice bunt, with no chance to get him (1). Walters struck out the next batter (2), and they intentionally walked the next (after a pitchout and clearly pitching around him trying to take away the suicide squeeze) to set up the force everywhere so a double play ends the threat.
Walters gets a double-play ball to short, and Tyler Greene throws a backhand flip high and away from Hoffpauir, E-6, two runs score (3). The next batter walks, and they bring Charlie Manning in with the bases loaded and one out.
On the first pitch, Manning gets another grounder to short, Which Greene boots for another run (4). He strikes out the pinch hitter (5), then Hoffpauir boots a hot shot for two more runs (6). Then, he finally gets a popout to get the inning over with, ending the dreaded seven-out inning.
Redbird…i agree with you on hoff, but you gotta quit taking those clowns over at stltoday seriously. Unless its written by Derrick Goold of course.
or rick hummel….Gordon, Miklasz, and Strauss all seem to have their own agendas
Hoffpauir with an error in 4 straight games and is up to 8 on the year with #9 to be officially charged after the completion of Sunday’s suspended game. Walters dating back to end of last year went 25.1 innings at home before giving up a ER. Wallace is in a 4-for- 32 slump. Shane Robinson is 5-for-37 since the demotion and 6 for last 48 with Memphis overall. Javier Brito to DL to make room for Mather. With 1 ER today the Memphis home ERA fell to 2.74 and thats with Kat Maekawa giving up 7 ER in one inning.
Ok, so first it was the entire organization couldn’t throw strikes from MLB to Russian Fall League. Now no one can get a hit.
Whoever is sending out the organizational memos should stop doing so before having his morning coffee.
Like I said don’t be surprised if he is never activated from the DL. Even if he is not released the Organization is still eating his $6.5M.
Tyler Herron’s line for his last 6 starts before last night:IP 35.1, 28 hits, 8 ER, 15BB, 25K, BAA 205, ERA 2.0. Except for a few hiccups I’d say he was throwing pretty well this year.
The draft can’t get here soon enough. It’s increasingly difficult to get excited about the current crop.
Nice to see Pagnozzi get two starts in a row…
All pitchers get hits in baseball. It’s how those hits convert to runs that counts.
I am a whip watcher myself, can tell a lot about what’s going on with the pitcher.
This draft year is kind of blah, especially for position guys, not sure if you will find much better than those that already exist in any sytem.
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I am going to agree with you on the pitching stats thing. Pitching is a much more athletic endeavor than hitting and this makes finding talent much more scouting intensive than saber intensive.
The thing that I want the team to stop doing is drafting a change-up. When I read scouting reports that say the player has a plus change-up that usually sends up a red flag for me in that he needed a change-up because his fastball and breaking ball were not good enough to survive the current level. A pitcher needs to have a fastball or breaking pitch that acts as his out pitch, not too many guys have lights out change-ups and the ones that do (Hoffman, Gagne) usually can just pump gas by you as well. When you read the scouting reports you need to find kids that have plus-plus fastball or some nasty breaking stuff, because those are the tools that miss bats. Pitchers have there whole minor league career to develop change-ups, lets find some nasty hard throwing punks first…
I was watching the Memphis game today and I noticed how Wallace has been struggling lately. This brought the statment into my mind that he is where he needs to be. I think he needs to be in a place where he will have to work harder to get those hits that came easy to him in AA, but he can still play everyday and get the experience he needs. I was just wondering what others around here think about the situation?
Long time reader, first time poster here…
I was at the Quad Cities game last night (at least as through the 6th inning when my 5 year old decided she wanted to leave). If the future of the Cardinals is dictated by what is at Quad Cities, the Cardinals are in TROUBLE. Lilley looked horrible in striking out…he seems that he can hit the fastball, but at the first sign of an offspeed pitch, he really looks like he doesn’t know what he is doing.
Don’t be too impressed with Cutler’s homerun. It was really nothing but a really high fly ball that seemed to carry into the first row in the shortest part of the park
(337 feet).
Cardenas looked pretty good. He sat between 88-89 most of the night (I saw him hit 90 a couple of times on the stadium gun). However, he mixed in his offspeed stuff really well, and really seemed to keep the Lugnuts hitters off balance. QC was winning until Rosales came in and promptly win BB, HPB, BB, infield out for a run, 2 run single and just like that QC was behind and done.
I agree with keeping Wallace in AAA to get the at bats needed to improve.
I just don’t understand why everyone wants to see prospects move up so quickly.
QC will improve once they get into a 5 day rotation amd the team gets it together, they are young and coming directly from EST.