Comments on: Draft Hangover: 2006

By: Clark

Clark — Fri, 17 May 2013 00:09:37 +0000

Allen craig probably will never see time with the Cardinals, hahahahahahahahahaha, good call

By: erik

erik — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:11:24 +0000

i think there is some rabid optimism, but i’m not sure i can fault the players they took, though. all of the players they took were highly rated by BA, and KLaw loved Hamilton. I suppose they could’ve had Jason Donald and Chris Valaika instead of Jay and Hamilton, but in the end will the difference between the two be that huge?

I think the problem is we all have too high of expectations of the draft. The average WAR per pick after the first few players isn’t that high.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/06/draft_picks_and.php

It’s basically your first couple of rounds and then you are going to get role players unless you really nail a pick later on. To get an Allen Craig, a PJ Walters and a Luke Gregerson where they got them is actually a pretty big success. Ottavino, to me, is just the whole pitcher risk thing.

the truth of the matter that getting great players in the draft most certainly should happen for every team, but i’m not sure it’s gonna happen with every draft. getting great players in the draft are more the exception and not the rule. not every draft has the ridiculous amount of talent the 05 one had. you’re just not gonna get a colby every year.

By: azruavatar

azruavatar — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:00:47 +0000

exactly. This draft’s total WAR in the players 6 cost-controlled years might be equivalent to the total WAR that Colby is going to be put up in 1 year.

Several of these guys have to turn out to be legit players before this draft doesn’t look bad. There’s too much optimism about these prospects. . .

By: tom s.

tom s. — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:25:31 +0000

I think azru has the right take on the draft. The draft isn’t here just to get us fringe type players, the draft is here to get us great players. Everybody isn’t going to be rasmus but two of the best players drafted are relievers, who have less value than starters or position players.the rest – jay, craig, shane – are nice pieces, but not necessarily starting position players. Maybe time will tell for walters and ottavino, but right now this draft has given us depth and perez, basically.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:45:34 +0000

Daley walked 61 batters in 110 IP and he had a .548 ERA during his last season in college (according to the Cal Poly website). I’m sure they took a chance thinking if he improved his control (maybe a mechanical flaw?) his stuff could carry him to the major leagues. They selected a few guys like that this year, too.

By: erik

erik — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:31:57 +0000

Actually, not to be contrary, but Daley didn’t really post good college numbers. I think when he was drafted his ERA was north of 5.00. He was drafted for his stuff, he flashed a 93-96 MPH sinker and an “often-unhittable power slider” in the Alaskan Summer League. He put himself in 1st round status, was ranked among the top college pitchers before the season started but then had a bleh jr. year at Cal Poly. He’s more the anti-Degerman. Getting him in the 3rd round was actually seen as a possible coup, but as we know now, the dude doesn’t know how to throw strikes.

I was listening to the radio when Daley was pitching the other day, and he threw a good game. The CR announcer seemed pretty impressed with his stuff but obviously less than impressed with his command. At least he’s not walking 10 per 9 in the GCL anymore.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:50:01 +0000

I look at this draft class and see 7 guys will see major league playing time in their careers. It certainly isn’t a glamorous group of players beyond Perez, but overall it seems like a fairly successful draft.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:49:34 +0000

It seems such a long time ago when Jay was tearing it up at the start of spring training, which brought up talks of him being a dark horse candidate to make the roster opening day. He of course did not, slumped at the beginning of the Memphis season and had to watch Robinson and Stavinoha pass him up on the OF depth chart. Now he seems to be lost in the mix.

By: Waltdub

Waltdub — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:15:51 +0000

I have to disagree that the 2006 draft was disappointing. I think this is one of the most underrated drafts.
There are already 4 guys from this draft who have played in the Majors:
1) Perez (decent reliever)
2) Gregerson (doing great in San Diego, I was sorry to see him go)
3) Robinson (4th/5th OF)
4) Walters (5th starter)

I think this draft misses the star potential of the 2005 draft, but besides those mentioned above, there are other potential MLB contributors.

Ottavino – Might be a useful middle reliever. Disappointing for a 1st rounder, but at least he’s no Chance Caple.
Jay – Has had a bad year, but his 3 previous years were pretty decent and he could become a regular OFer. Still has a good BB/K ratio this year.
Hamilton – Having a strong 2009, defense stinks but could be useful to an AL team?
Daley – I have seen this kid pitch twice this year. HE HAS AMAZING STUFF, he just lacks control.
Norrick – Yesterday we saw a report that he was pitching in the mid-90′s Has a great K/9 ratio this year and may be a useful LOOGY.
Craig – Possible bench player?
Carpenter – Pitches in the mid-90′s after converting from catcher. Has potential to reach majors as a reliever. Needs to work on secondary stuff, but I have seen him pitch several times as well.
Edwards and Pham – Potential, still young, but frustrating to watch them strike out all the time. Both are 21.
Mulligan – Probably the most underrated pitcher in the system. Doing awesome this year. Only 21 yo.
Diapoules – Has a sick sinker and was one of my favorite pitchers on QC team last year. I liked him more than Additon, but he’s lost his control this year. Is only 20/21 years old this season.
Ingram – Easy to forget about. Was close to BA’s top 30 last year.
Shorey – Hitting above .300 in AAA. Could contribute to ML’s someday.
Additon – Did very well last year. He’s a finesse lefty, and I think he’ll have trouble when he reaches AA, but having a good run right now.

Again, I don’t think any of these guys are going to be All-Stars, but you already have 2 regulars in Perez and Gregerson, there are 2 more guys who have already appeared in the majors, and there are probably 3-4 other guys that may get a cup of coffee at some point. There could be 8 guys from this draft who see the majors. It’s not 2005, but it’s not a bad draft.