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		<title>By: mizzoucards529</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/07/14/midseason-prospect-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-11153</link>
		<dc:creator>mizzoucards529</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, i know he&#039;s getting a bit old for a &quot;prospect&quot;, but what has happened to Fernando Salas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, i know he&#8217;s getting a bit old for a &#8220;prospect&#8221;, but what has happened to Fernando Salas?</p>
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		<title>By: jws003</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/07/14/midseason-prospect-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-10459</link>
		<dc:creator>jws003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, love the list. I would throw Matt Adams or the 3B Carpenter in there at least in honorable mention. Adams has hit like no other prospect we drafted and I think he could continue that hitting very easily at higher levels. Also, I was excited about Carpenter when we drafter him, very athletic and has hit very well already as well.

One question, would anybody be opposed to seeing Craig be called up in place of Duncan? He offers hardly any bat and NO defense. At least Ankiel plays hard, has a good arm and great range. I would even take Jay over Duncan. I&#039;m I in the minority here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, love the list. I would throw Matt Adams or the 3B Carpenter in there at least in honorable mention. Adams has hit like no other prospect we drafted and I think he could continue that hitting very easily at higher levels. Also, I was excited about Carpenter when we drafter him, very athletic and has hit very well already as well.</p>
<p>One question, would anybody be opposed to seeing Craig be called up in place of Duncan? He offers hardly any bat and NO defense. At least Ankiel plays hard, has a good arm and great range. I would even take Jay over Duncan. I&#8217;m I in the minority here?</p>
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		<title>By: fpslackers</title>
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		<dc:creator>fpslackers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if Kozma would make my top 15.  Are we ranking him there just because he&#039;s a first round pick and we feel bad that everyone has bashed that draft pick?  He hasn&#039;t really impressed at all in pro ball.  He doesn&#039;t look like a complete bust yet, but let&#039;s be honest here.  He hasn&#039;t showed the ability to hit for average, he has shown little to no power, and very little speed on the basepaths.  If we were talking about a player like DJ who was known to be very toolsy I would be ok with ranking him that high, but we know this to not be the case.  Therefore, I can&#039;t really justify ranking him that high.  I have much more optimism for Brendan Ryan&#039;s future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if Kozma would make my top 15.  Are we ranking him there just because he&#8217;s a first round pick and we feel bad that everyone has bashed that draft pick?  He hasn&#8217;t really impressed at all in pro ball.  He doesn&#8217;t look like a complete bust yet, but let&#8217;s be honest here.  He hasn&#8217;t showed the ability to hit for average, he has shown little to no power, and very little speed on the basepaths.  If we were talking about a player like DJ who was known to be very toolsy I would be ok with ranking him that high, but we know this to not be the case.  Therefore, I can&#8217;t really justify ranking him that high.  I have much more optimism for Brendan Ryan&#8217;s future.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2009/07/14/midseason-prospect-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-10446</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great list and discussion.  It is always good to reevaluate the prospects mid-year as so much can change in half a season.  The only philosophy I disagree with in your assessment is prospects are graded on their tools only.  I personally think that it is a combination of tools and what you have done and what level AND when your projected to hit the majors.  So for fun here is my Top 15 list:

1)  Wallace - we all know about him :)
2)  D. Jones - I am higher on him than some...I think he will be a very good MLB player and give the Cards another speed guy that could be top of the order material which we have been lacking for years.  With that said he needs to work on his BB and cutting down his K&#039;s a touch.  He has the ability to be a leadoff hitter if he works on aspects of his game to fit that type of hitter.
3)  Miller - I usually don&#039;t put a HS pitcher just drafted this high on any prospect list.  But Miller is special...because we have no other SP&#039;s that are ace or #2 type pitchers he has to this high.  Could easiely be our #1 prospect this time next year.
4)  Todd - The little man just keeps getting it done.  He is a 7th/8th inning guy for me when he gets adjusted to the bigs.  I still think we gave up too early on him as a starter...but what can ya do.
5)  Mortensen - To me he is the best pitching prospect we have that is high enough in the minors to consider close to MLB ready.  I agree he projects very well as a #3 type starter and if all goes well is my favorite to take the #5 rotation spot for next year.
6)  Garcia - Very close Mort but with TJ it knocked him out of my Top 5.  A lefty that also projects well as a #3 type starter.  If he rebounds and shows no ill effects from TJ then I think he will be with the big club mid-next year in some capacity.  I like Garcia alot.
7)  Descalso - This guy has a chance to be the starting 2B for us next year...but we all know TLR is not a fan of just saying &quot;Here ya go&quot; to any rookie.  So my guess is he gets the opportunity to be a role player for awhile and if he has some success they give him more and more time.  By the end of 2010 I can definitely see him manning 2B for us.  A guy that was off many peoples radar at the start of the season...but he keeps putting up numbers.
8)  Mateo - I couldn&#039;t bring myself to put him any higher than this on my list.  The big bonus and projections are fine and all....but at 16 yrs old I need to see him for 2 years in the system to get anymore excited about him.
9)  Kozma - As everyone always says...he is not flashy and isn&#039;t exciting in any one aspect of his game.  But I believe he is a solid defender and will hit enough to play everyday in the bigs.  Any SS that is projected to do that should always be in the Top 10-12 prospects in your system.
10)  Lynn - I liked this pick in last years draft and he is moving up the system.  Another year in the minors to continue to grow and face advanced hitting and he moves up my board.  I only see him as a #4 type starter in his prime...but every team needs 5 starters to run out there every 5th day to succeed.
11)  Samuel - Electric arm with not so electric control.  If he ever starts showing progress in his control he will shoot up my board...but that also assumes he is still in our system at that point.
12)  Henley/Jay - I lump these 2 together because I like about that same.  I think they both project as fringe starting OF in the bigs...but both will be very valuable 4th OF&#039;s IMO.  I think I project Henley a touch higher than Jay...but Jay is more advanced.
13)  Reifer - With his stuff only he has to make the list.  If/when his stats start looking like his stuff he will be in my Top 5 no questions asked.  
14)  Luna - I liked this kid at Rice...I liked when we drafted him and I like him now.  His stats aren&#039;t exactly eye popping but he is starting to figure it out.  
15)  De La Cruz - On potential only he had to be squeezed into the Top 15.  Hopefully we see some progress in the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great list and discussion.  It is always good to reevaluate the prospects mid-year as so much can change in half a season.  The only philosophy I disagree with in your assessment is prospects are graded on their tools only.  I personally think that it is a combination of tools and what you have done and what level AND when your projected to hit the majors.  So for fun here is my Top 15 list:</p>
<p>1)  Wallace &#8211; we all know about him :)<br />
2)  D. Jones &#8211; I am higher on him than some&#8230;I think he will be a very good MLB player and give the Cards another speed guy that could be top of the order material which we have been lacking for years.  With that said he needs to work on his BB and cutting down his K&#8217;s a touch.  He has the ability to be a leadoff hitter if he works on aspects of his game to fit that type of hitter.<br />
3)  Miller &#8211; I usually don&#8217;t put a HS pitcher just drafted this high on any prospect list.  But Miller is special&#8230;because we have no other SP&#8217;s that are ace or #2 type pitchers he has to this high.  Could easiely be our #1 prospect this time next year.<br />
4)  Todd &#8211; The little man just keeps getting it done.  He is a 7th/8th inning guy for me when he gets adjusted to the bigs.  I still think we gave up too early on him as a starter&#8230;but what can ya do.<br />
5)  Mortensen &#8211; To me he is the best pitching prospect we have that is high enough in the minors to consider close to MLB ready.  I agree he projects very well as a #3 type starter and if all goes well is my favorite to take the #5 rotation spot for next year.<br />
6)  Garcia &#8211; Very close Mort but with TJ it knocked him out of my Top 5.  A lefty that also projects well as a #3 type starter.  If he rebounds and shows no ill effects from TJ then I think he will be with the big club mid-next year in some capacity.  I like Garcia alot.<br />
7)  Descalso &#8211; This guy has a chance to be the starting 2B for us next year&#8230;but we all know TLR is not a fan of just saying &#8220;Here ya go&#8221; to any rookie.  So my guess is he gets the opportunity to be a role player for awhile and if he has some success they give him more and more time.  By the end of 2010 I can definitely see him manning 2B for us.  A guy that was off many peoples radar at the start of the season&#8230;but he keeps putting up numbers.<br />
8)  Mateo &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t bring myself to put him any higher than this on my list.  The big bonus and projections are fine and all&#8230;.but at 16 yrs old I need to see him for 2 years in the system to get anymore excited about him.<br />
9)  Kozma &#8211; As everyone always says&#8230;he is not flashy and isn&#8217;t exciting in any one aspect of his game.  But I believe he is a solid defender and will hit enough to play everyday in the bigs.  Any SS that is projected to do that should always be in the Top 10-12 prospects in your system.<br />
10)  Lynn &#8211; I liked this pick in last years draft and he is moving up the system.  Another year in the minors to continue to grow and face advanced hitting and he moves up my board.  I only see him as a #4 type starter in his prime&#8230;but every team needs 5 starters to run out there every 5th day to succeed.<br />
11)  Samuel &#8211; Electric arm with not so electric control.  If he ever starts showing progress in his control he will shoot up my board&#8230;but that also assumes he is still in our system at that point.<br />
12)  Henley/Jay &#8211; I lump these 2 together because I like about that same.  I think they both project as fringe starting OF in the bigs&#8230;but both will be very valuable 4th OF&#8217;s IMO.  I think I project Henley a touch higher than Jay&#8230;but Jay is more advanced.<br />
13)  Reifer &#8211; With his stuff only he has to make the list.  If/when his stats start looking like his stuff he will be in my Top 5 no questions asked.<br />
14)  Luna &#8211; I liked this kid at Rice&#8230;I liked when we drafted him and I like him now.  His stats aren&#8217;t exactly eye popping but he is starting to figure it out.<br />
15)  De La Cruz &#8211; On potential only he had to be squeezed into the Top 15.  Hopefully we see some progress in the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty excited out of what Daniel Calhoun has done in the past year. It&#039;d be great to find out what kind of stuff he has, because the numbers, the size, and the freakish wrong-handedness are all good signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty excited out of what Daniel Calhoun has done in the past year. It&#8217;d be great to find out what kind of stuff he has, because the numbers, the size, and the freakish wrong-handedness are all good signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this list is taken way too serious but we&#039;re Cardinal fans, that&#039;s what we do.  I love this site because living in Portland I get limited info regarding minor league talent and this site including comments generally has everything needed.  That said, I do think people disect this a little too much.  That truth is we have one horse in our system and that&#039;s Wallace.  Todd is going to be an Indian shortly so you can take him off this list.  Until Miller signs it&#039;s a pretty good system but not an elite.   Anything after two and you can switch any which way.  That said I do enjoy reading about it each day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this list is taken way too serious but we&#8217;re Cardinal fans, that&#8217;s what we do.  I love this site because living in Portland I get limited info regarding minor league talent and this site including comments generally has everything needed.  That said, I do think people disect this a little too much.  That truth is we have one horse in our system and that&#8217;s Wallace.  Todd is going to be an Indian shortly so you can take him off this list.  Until Miller signs it&#8217;s a pretty good system but not an elite.   Anything after two and you can switch any which way.  That said I do enjoy reading about it each day.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. As for the pitch f/x, I don&#039;t know, Sammy wasn&#039;t on his A game and Ottavino was during the WBC, so that won&#039;t come out quite fair. But I think you&#039;re right about Ottavino, a switch to the bullpen might change things for him. His secondary stuff is lagging behind a bit, or so I understand, but if he can come out of the &#039;pen pumping strikes with his fastball a tick or two higher than when he&#039;s stretched out for 5 innings, could make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. As for the pitch f/x, I don&#8217;t know, Sammy wasn&#8217;t on his A game and Ottavino was during the WBC, so that won&#8217;t come out quite fair. But I think you&#8217;re right about Ottavino, a switch to the bullpen might change things for him. His secondary stuff is lagging behind a bit, or so I understand, but if he can come out of the &#8216;pen pumping strikes with his fastball a tick or two higher than when he&#8217;s stretched out for 5 innings, could make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contrary to some of the FO guys saying they think he could win a batting title, Jay has also long had the whole &quot;tweener&quot; question, and he&#039;s stopped hitting. but yeah, you could interchange them and it wouldn&#039;t be a big deal. Some people really like him, others see a 4th OF. Jay could come on and shoot back up the list. 

It&#039;s just my own little ranking, take it for what it&#039;s worth. 

It&#039;s not just you, and maybe it&#039;s just that emotions are hard to convey online, but I&#039;m just a little bit surprised by a few of the comments where people are all up in arms about their pet prospects or arguing about so-and-so getting snubbed. it&#039;s pretty clear to me that as you go down the list, you can interchange a lot of these guys and not do them a big injustice. They are all &quot;C&quot; guys. No big deal. 

 This is just for fun, take it with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>contrary to some of the FO guys saying they think he could win a batting title, Jay has also long had the whole &#8220;tweener&#8221; question, and he&#8217;s stopped hitting. but yeah, you could interchange them and it wouldn&#8217;t be a big deal. Some people really like him, others see a 4th OF. Jay could come on and shoot back up the list. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just my own little ranking, take it for what it&#8217;s worth. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just you, and maybe it&#8217;s just that emotions are hard to convey online, but I&#8217;m just a little bit surprised by a few of the comments where people are all up in arms about their pet prospects or arguing about so-and-so getting snubbed. it&#8217;s pretty clear to me that as you go down the list, you can interchange a lot of these guys and not do them a big injustice. They are all &#8220;C&#8221; guys. No big deal. </p>
<p> This is just for fun, take it with a grain of salt.</p>
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		<title>By: Illinoiscardsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illinoiscardsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the midseason list, but I have a question on the ranking system. It seems like the Cardinals like most major league franchises have designated 2B as the least important position on the field. It also seems like most franchises will also try anybody who can field at all at 2B. So if you are going to assign extra points to someone who can field at SS. Don&#039;t you have to subtract points from anybody that is strictly a 2B prospect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the midseason list, but I have a question on the ranking system. It seems like the Cardinals like most major league franchises have designated 2B as the least important position on the field. It also seems like most franchises will also try anybody who can field at all at 2B. So if you are going to assign extra points to someone who can field at SS. Don&#8217;t you have to subtract points from anybody that is strictly a 2B prospect?</p>
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		<title>By: cariocacardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cariocacardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then why rank Peterson over Jay who has + defensive tools and most people think will hit in the big leagues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then why rank Peterson over Jay who has + defensive tools and most people think will hit in the big leagues?</p>
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