Comments on: Holliday & DeRosa: The Aftermath

By: Boomer Lowe

Boomer Lowe — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:15:23 +0000

Wonderful analysis. Thanks.
I especially liked the connection to the Braves as a model for how to use the farm.
Thanks again.
Boomer.

By: erik

erik — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:47:08 +0000

DeRosa is a 3 win player per year. Holliday 5-6. That’s not impact?

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:44:48 +0000

Hugo- Carp is signed through 2011 with a club option for 2012. Also, T. Miller is not already signed for next season.

By: Illinoiscardsfan

Illinoiscardsfan — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:58:37 +0000

I would quibble with the term “impact player.” To me Manny Ramirez and Sabathia were impact players. Halliday would be an impact player. I would put Holliday and DeRosa in the next tier down. Maybe something like plus player. I do like both players. My question or problem is with asset management. The DeRosa trade seems to be a good example of Mo overpaying in comparison to what Cleveland paid. If Witt is going to hold the line on the pay roll then we need a general manager who does a great job in this area. Of course only time will tell, it is certainly possible that the pitchers the Cubs got for DeRosa will be better than the pitchers Cleveland got but at this point with how the prospects were currently valued it does not look like it.

By: Lou Schuler

Lou Schuler — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:31:21 +0000

Aaron, if we win the division and at least one postseason series, I could see the money being there to sign 2 of those 3.

I have to assume some of that money was there this year — that’s how they came up with $7 million to sign Mateo and (we all hope) Miller, and to add several million dollars in payroll for the stretch drive.

By: theredbaaron

theredbaaron — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:39:32 +0000

I’m really fascinated by the way everyone just sort of throws around the notion of resigning Holliday AND DeRosa AND possibly Pineiro like it’s no big deal. Where exactly is all of this extra cash coming from? With a monstrous contract extension for Albert looming, you simply can’t sign all the players you want. I know it looks like there’s going to be plenty of money next season because of all the contracts coming off the books, but keep in mind, baseball players don’t sign one year deals. Especially not the ones everybody really wants to sign.

By: lawless

lawless — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:12:25 +0000

Good write up, but I disagree with the “good but not astoundingly so” classification of Lynn and Henley.

Henley has clearly blown away expectation and Lynn is not far behind…..

By: Todd McCarthy

Todd McCarthy — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:45 +0000

Sorry, this is off-subject.

not sure if anyone had come across this yet. Casey Mulligan attempting “thriller” during a rain delay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEh6TcmlQes

By: tom s.

tom s. — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:52:05 +0000

cvb — first off, there was never a 40-man problem to begin with. i did a run-down of the 40-man at VEB about 3 weeks ago. second, the trades opened up exactly ONE spot on the 40-man (4 on the 40-man departed, three arrived; two not on the 40-man and not rule five eligible this year also departed). if we don’t resign derosa or holliday, we will have gained THREE spots.

but even before the trade we had very few prospects truly in danger of being taken, and all of them could be managed with the large number of free agents leaving and at worst some minor roster moves – like disposing of non-prospects like scherer or shane robinson or nick stavinoha.

By: jjray

jjray — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:15:52 +0000

@burt. Their plan on Craig seems to be utility corner IF-OF ala Joe Mather. I’m not sold on Freese so I think they should play Craig @ 3B in Memphis for the rest of the season to see how he performs. Giving ABs to K. Greene in Memphis is just throwing them away. Greene became extra baggage when we acquired Lugo.