Per the Blue Jays official Twitter feed.
Hoffpauir had a nice little rebound season for Memphis, hitting .299/.367/.496 in 375 at-bats. The equivalent is a .713 OPS. The problem is he was repeating triple-A, was 26 years old, and at least according to Total Zone (a respected defensive metric), Hoff had a glove o’lead. Over his past two seasons, he was minus 25 runs over 229 games.
Now Memphis manager Chris Maloney has no excuse to take away precious development time for Dan Descalso at second base. I like the Hoff, and we’ll always have 2007 when we thought he might be a late-bloomer, but the bottom line is Hoffpauir is about as fungible as they come.
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Dear Jays — we are having a 2-for-1 sale. Can I interest you in a Stavinoha?
Descalso needs to be an everyday player @ 2B in Memphis next season. Hoffpauir only plays 2B. Best of luck to Jarrett.
Its too bad we were not able to trade Hoffpauir and get another player. The Blue Birds seem to watch who the Red Birds cast off.
Tom S. , I second your open letter to the Jays. Garage sale time. If the Jays hem and haw about the bargain, then throw in a “Sugar” Shane to sweeten the pot.
Why Hoff and not Scherer? At least Hoff adds org depth in an area we are weak in. We most certainly will need a minor league FA in the infield for Memphis next year.
So they claimed him, but was he on revokable waivers? Were we and did we pull him back? Lost of questions about this for me. Figure it was to clean up the 40 man roster for rule 5 protectees but how many slots do we currently have open and how many people do we need to protect? Now might make a wonderful 40 man roster/rule 5 post time.
I’m glad we relieved the 2B pileup for the time being
The real question is who else is on waivers now but has gone as yet unclaimed – I’d bet shane, stav, and scherer are on that list.thompson?
DG has a new Bird Land up cover the post I just said would be worthwhile right now. Barden was set free as a free agent already, Mather, Stav and Thurston have to be re-upped and there are a bunch of free agents that will free up more spots.
being reported that Thompson has been released and Scherer and Thurston have been outrighted.
I would rather have J-Hoff playing 2B in St. Louis next year vs LHP than freakin’ Lugo. Maybe we’ll actually go out and get a starting 2B with some power this offseason and move Skip back to OF, but I doubt it.
So Lugo already cost us Hoffpauir, I guess he’ll also be Tony’s excuse for keeping T. Greene in Memphis for another season.
Difference between someone clearing waivers to be sent down and being outrighted? … anyone?
wade — you get to be outrighted once in your career. if you have been outrighted previously, you have to clear waivers to get off the 40-man. so, thurston and scherer could be outrighted because they’d never been outrighted before. i’m guessing the hoff must have been previously outrighted.
barden was put through waivers, iirc, because arizona had outrighted him once before. cot’s tracks whether somebody’s been outrighted, though i don’t know that they’re 100% on prior outrightings.
SHANEo69-
you can’t be serious? Hoffpauir was -25, and Lugo was -16 (don’t know what Lugo’s numbers were at 2B only)… Also Lugo was coming off knee surgery so in theory Lugo could improve a tad, but I would not look for major improvement due to his age.
Skip should NEVER play outfield. Where do you want him to play in the OF? CF? hell no, RF? hell no, LF? Hell no, if the Cards don’t sign Holliday there has to be a WAY better LF option than Skip…. Skipe should NEVER play of, he has zero value in the OF because he can’t hit for ANY power.
Tyler Greene isn’t very good. So I guess I could care less if he is in Memphis playing everyday and then comping up to play SS when Brendan Ryan gets hurt Lugo should not play SS for long periods of time. I guess the one issue next year is you don’t really have a good back up SS option, I guess the Cards just have to hope Brendan Ryan stays healthy/good enough to play 150 games..
Jarret Hoff & Matt Scherrer are sure fire HOF’s cant miss prospects.. There will be more openings on the 40 man as well and Mather, Shane & Stav will not be let go… Also look for Maclane to be part of the 40 man..
ICBIRDFAN is right! Please use some common sense in this whole ordeal. We tend to get WAY too caught up in minor league numbers versus common sense and it’s come to a head. -J-Hoff= More chances for pros + tools, ability. C’mon, may-un!
tom s. … ok, that’s the impression i had, but just trying to think what the reason would be to waive someone (dodgers-thurston) instead of outrighting him if he had not been outrighted yet.
it could have saved us from watching him all year!
Hoff was 4th on the Cards depth chart at 2B behind Skip, Lugo, and T. Greene. It’s the only position he plays. He was stealing PT from Descalso at Memphis. I like Hoff but this move makes all the sense in the world. It’s also a good move for Hoff. There is some chatter out there that the Jays might move Aaron Hill back to SS and turn over 2B to Hoff. In any event, if the Jay’s regular 2B can play SS, it allows Hoff to be a utility middle infielder on their big club by playing 2B (and occasionally shifting the regular 2B to short).
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/blue-jays-claim-hoffpauir-from-cardinals.html