Most of the players in the next group have seen their stocks drop over the last year. A group of prospects that once looked like they may have a larger role now appear to be a collection of role players.
#15. Adam Reifer
Age – 23
Stats
Individual Rankings – azruavatar – 17, Jeff Roman – 14, erik – 15
Player Comments -
Can I explain his .362 BABIP away with just dumb luck? I don’t know. I was expecting more K’s, less hits and more…hatred. I don’t know what happened here, but I’m willing to give Reifer a little benefit of the doubt given his ability. -erik
The purported stuff of Reifer has never matched his results. He’s another power arm that struggles to put hitters away consistently. The Cardinals have seen too many of these players flame out in recent seasons. -azruavatar
#14. Pete Kozma
Age – 22
Stats
Individual Rankings – azruavatar – 13, Jeff Roman – 13, erik – 19
Player Comments –
Kozma has never done anything to deserve to be ranked this low in the Cardinals rankings, but he has never done anything to deserve to be ranked higher than this. He’s above average at every tool, but has never had great results. He’s a milk toast SS. - Jeff Roman
I normally am the Kozmanaut apologist, but now I see I’m lower on the Koz than my compatriots. He was moved too fast, didn’t hit and struggled a bit defensively. If he can play solid defense, he doesn’t have to be the world’s greatest hitter. His ability to stick at short is his only saving grace for me at the moment. -erik
This was the worst draft pick to date for Jeff Luhnow and Co. Widely derided at the time, it’s yet to come to the fruition they had hoped for. -azruavatar
#13. Bryan Anderson
Age – 23
Stats
Individual Rankings – azruavatar – 7, Jeff Roman – 18, erik – 14
Player Comments -
Anderson is suffering from Jason Kendall-itis way too soon in his career. He did have some injuries that set him back. I keep hearing Anderson needs to hit for power. That would be gravy, but he doesn’t need to. He just needs to go back to being Bryan Anderson at the plate. And he has to improve on defense. Anderson doesn’t have to be Mike Matheny, he just needs to not be a big, fat minus. An average hitter (.330 wOBA) that can play catcher (the most demanding position) is an above average player. Anderson was one of the younger players in the PCL last year, let’s also not forget that. -erik
The shoulder gives me cause for concern but, to me, there’s some bandwagon downgrading of Anderson going on. The obsession with “power” and the team’s reluctance to give him regular and primary catching responsibilities at Memphis have cast a pall on a player who was part of the top 5 in most rankings last year. Anderson deserves to be marked down for another lackluster season but the precipitous decline strikes me as too reactionary and ignores the positives of why he was drafted and what he’s done to date. At 23, he has a couple years before his physical attributes and skillset are done developing; it’s too soon to officially pull the plug on his prospect status. -azruavatar
I’m worried a bit about Anderson, he hasn’t caught regularly in a while and he lost the last part of 2009 to an injury. I’m cautiously optimistic about Anderson, but I’ll believe it when I see it. - Jeff Roman
#12. Jon Jay
Age – 25
Stats
Individual Rankings – azruavatar – 15, Jeff Roman – 9, erik – 11
Player Comments –
Jon Jay could play any outfield position right now in the bigs defensively. - Jeff Roman
While his bat went down the tubes for several months this year, he’s stopped nosediving and his outfield range is solid. Jay for 4th OF! -erik
#11. Tyler Henley
Age – 25
Stats
Individual Rankings – azruavatar – 8, Jeff Roman – 11, erik – 12
Player Comments -
Can Henley hit at the Triple-A level like he did in Springfield? He strikes me as one with a bit of a tweener skillset, this is one ranking I’m sort of having #hpgf remorse on. If he can hit at the Triple-A level next year, then color me a believer. -erik
Henley makes his way into my top 10 as a player we’ve never had to make excuses for; there’s no lost season that has to be explained away. He plays solid defense; he’s hit for average and moderate power without the unsustainable BABIPs that other prospects have shown. As a jack of all trades and master of none, he’s going to disappoint people looking for a standout skill. He’s also on the wrong team as a left handed hitting outfielder who can play a capable CF blocked by Colby Rasmus and competing with Jon Jay/Daryl Jones. He’s got a shot at being an everyday outfielder in the majors but the more likely result is a bench role with significant plate appearances. -azruavatar
Tyler Henley is a character who has never been hyped (except by AZ) and who has continually put up numbers in each level. He doesn’t hit for a lot of power, or hit for a huge average, but he’s a solid player who has continually produced in the minors. Those aren’t that easy to come by in the Cards system. – Jeff Roman

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Regarding Anderson, I also do not understand the issue with his lack of power. The last time a Cardinals catcher had 10 or more home runs was Tom Pagnozzi in 1996.
For whatever reason, TLR overestimates the win value of catching defense. I like Yadi just fine, but there is no way his pathetic offense in his first couple of seasons wasn’t a net liability to the team. Mike Matheny had a .304 OBP for his Cardinals career.
I think there is something else at work here as to why the Cardinals don’t like Anderson. Maybe he doesn’t drink…
Glad to see that you’re not writing off Reifer and Kozma. I do have a feeling that both of them will be major leaguers with Reifer possibly finding his inner closer. Henley’s age for his levels has always bothered me. I just have a feeling about Jay that he’ll be a better offensive player in the majors than he has been in the minors. Not great but with his defense he could be a pretty valuable player and have a long career.
What happened to Jon Jay in the Venezuelan League? He was doing well, but then he stopped playing at the end of November.
out giveml…thats a little harsh
i have the same question about d-jones in the AFL, clark…he was playing well, and then just started sucking
ouch, not out
I have a question for everybody. How do you guys feel about Casey Mulligan? Also, how do you think the front office views him and his future? Just wondering what his potential might be.
hmm..pretty unimpressive so far
3 #4 OF’s (Jay, Henley, Chambers)
2 relievers that have control issues (Reifer, Samuel)
2 starters that struggled in the minors (Ottavino, Hawksworth – though I think Hawk will be fine as a middle reliever)
1 catcher that apparently can’t catch (Anderson)
1 shortstop that can’t hit (Kozma)
I don’t really know a whole lot about Joe Kelly, but he should probably bulk up a bit…6 foot 1 and 165 lbs seems a wee bit on the stringbean side.
I think my ranking would be:
20. Kozma
19. Ottavino
18. Reifer
17. Samuel
16. Kelly
15. Anderson
14. Jay
13. Henley
12. Chambers
11. Hawksworth
craig, freese, descalso, garcia, miller, jones, lynn, stock, sanchez, greene
10. Descalso
9. T. Greene
8. Stock
7. Jones
6. Sanchez
5. Freese
4. Craig
3. Lynn
2. Garcia
1. Miller
This list makes me feel a lot better than the 11-20 (of course).
I see…
3 starting pitchers
a starting 3rd basemen with power
a starting outfielder with power (craig)
2 serviceable middle infielders
a closer (sanchez)
a “toolsy” outfielder who needs to repeat his 2008 campaign
Robert Stock should be solid either as a catcher or pitcher from what I’ve read – haven’t seen him play though.
Just wanted to put my 2 cents in since I’m not around much
I am interested on the groups take on Lynn.
I firmly believe that to be a major league pitcher you have to be able to locate you fastball and have an out-pitch, some nasty pitch that they can get swings and misses or swings and not hit very square.
The scouting report on Lynn says he can do the first, but is vague on what he is going to throw a guy with two strikes.
I think Lynn will disappoint some people who see him as a below average #2 but a good #3. I think he will pitch similar to Jason Marquis did as a Cardinal. I can see him struggle with walks and homeruns early in his career, also. However, I think he can win 15 games in the big leagues, which is definetaly nothing to sneeze at.
A good example of a major-league pitcher who did well without a single out pitch (and one who shared certain traits with Lynn, like being college-educated and humongous) was former Cardinal Joe Magrane. He generally couldn’t even dial it up to 90, but his ability to throw lots of different pitches still made him effective. Of course, he also had the advantage of being left handed. Still, it can be done, although I’d agree with the big guys (I’m no slip of a man myself) that I’d rather see him develop the ability to just blow ‘em away.
I’d be very satisfied if Lynn’s a pre injury, right handed Magrane. This year will tell a great deal as he’ll surely be at AAA. At some point you have to consider consistent minor league results as much as “stuff” in evaluating pitchers. The results have been very good so far and if they continue at AAA then I’ll predict that he’s a + major league pitcher.
Scout.com has their 40 prospects in 40 days thing going on…so far, every other report has been free…some interesting thoughts on some of our younger/newer prospects like matt adams, joe kelly, and kyle conley
re: Lynn
I’m not too keen either. My one hope is that he gets himself in shape – from what I’ve heard, he just about hangs around 90mph now, but he’s severely over-weight IMO for a guy his age. If he gets in the gym over the winter, improves his core strength and loses a few pounds, I wonder if he won’t magically see a bump to 93, 94, which I think he’ll need in the majors to be an effective starter, given his uninspiring secondary offerings. Overall, I’m not terribly high on the guy, although I think the reports that he’s going to end up a reasonable back-of-the-rotation guy are probably fair. I think Garcia (who has an out-pitch to go with his GB rate, plus success at AAA) is the better prospect of the two.