Comments on: Future Redbirds 2010 Top 20: 11-15

By: Felonius_Monk

Felonius_Monk — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:03:54 +0000

re: Lynn

I’m not too keen either. My one hope is that he gets himself in shape – from what I’ve heard, he just about hangs around 90mph now, but he’s severely over-weight IMO for a guy his age. If he gets in the gym over the winter, improves his core strength and loses a few pounds, I wonder if he won’t magically see a bump to 93, 94, which I think he’ll need in the majors to be an effective starter, given his uninspiring secondary offerings. Overall, I’m not terribly high on the guy, although I think the reports that he’s going to end up a reasonable back-of-the-rotation guy are probably fair. I think Garcia (who has an out-pitch to go with his GB rate, plus success at AAA) is the better prospect of the two.

By: VolsnCards5

VolsnCards5 — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:25:23 +0000

Scout.com has their 40 prospects in 40 days thing going on…so far, every other report has been free…some interesting thoughts on some of our younger/newer prospects like matt adams, joe kelly, and kyle conley

By: Easy

Easy — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:10:31 +0000

I’d be very satisfied if Lynn’s a pre injury, right handed Magrane. This year will tell a great deal as he’ll surely be at AAA. At some point you have to consider consistent minor league results as much as “stuff” in evaluating pitchers. The results have been very good so far and if they continue at AAA then I’ll predict that he’s a + major league pitcher.

By: Gruntosaurus

Gruntosaurus — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:50:50 +0000

A good example of a major-league pitcher who did well without a single out pitch (and one who shared certain traits with Lynn, like being college-educated and humongous) was former Cardinal Joe Magrane. He generally couldn’t even dial it up to 90, but his ability to throw lots of different pitches still made him effective. Of course, he also had the advantage of being left handed. Still, it can be done, although I’d agree with the big guys (I’m no slip of a man myself) that I’d rather see him develop the ability to just blow ‘em away.

By: BigRob

BigRob — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:25:16 +0000

I think Lynn will disappoint some people who see him as a below average #2 but a good #3. I think he will pitch similar to Jason Marquis did as a Cardinal. I can see him struggle with walks and homeruns early in his career, also. However, I think he can win 15 games in the big leagues, which is definetaly nothing to sneeze at.

By: BigJawnMize

BigJawnMize — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:33:34 +0000

I am interested on the groups take on Lynn.

I firmly believe that to be a major league pitcher you have to be able to locate you fastball and have an out-pitch, some nasty pitch that they can get swings and misses or swings and not hit very square.

The scouting report on Lynn says he can do the first, but is vague on what he is going to throw a guy with two strikes.

By: Tomm

Tomm — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:07:43 +0000

craig, freese, descalso, garcia, miller, jones, lynn, stock, sanchez, greene

10. Descalso
9. T. Greene
8. Stock
7. Jones
6. Sanchez
5. Freese
4. Craig
3. Lynn
2. Garcia
1. Miller

This list makes me feel a lot better than the 11-20 (of course).

I see…

3 starting pitchers
a starting 3rd basemen with power
a starting outfielder with power (craig)
2 serviceable middle infielders
a closer (sanchez)
a “toolsy” outfielder who needs to repeat his 2008 campaign

Robert Stock should be solid either as a catcher or pitcher from what I’ve read – haven’t seen him play though.

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in since I’m not around much

By: Tomm

Tomm — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:53:46 +0000

hmm..pretty unimpressive so far

3 #4 OF’s (Jay, Henley, Chambers)
2 relievers that have control issues (Reifer, Samuel)
2 starters that struggled in the minors (Ottavino, Hawksworth – though I think Hawk will be fine as a middle reliever)
1 catcher that apparently can’t catch (Anderson)
1 shortstop that can’t hit (Kozma)

I don’t really know a whole lot about Joe Kelly, but he should probably bulk up a bit…6 foot 1 and 165 lbs seems a wee bit on the stringbean side.

I think my ranking would be:

20. Kozma
19. Ottavino
18. Reifer
17. Samuel
16. Kelly
15. Anderson
14. Jay
13. Henley
12. Chambers
11. Hawksworth

By: BigRoB

BigRoB — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:53:00 +0000

I have a question for everybody. How do you guys feel about Casey Mulligan? Also, how do you think the front office views him and his future? Just wondering what his potential might be.

By: VolsnCards5

VolsnCards5 — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:29:15 +0000

ouch, not out