25. St. Louis Cardinals Stetson Allie, RHP/3B, St. Edwards H.S.
I’ve heard the Cardinals are heavy on Allie, although hearing they might take a prep arm with their first pick in consecutive years made my head explode.
For what it’s worth, this guy really loves Stetson Allie.
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I’m on record as really liking Allie. I’d be fine with any number of high school arms that could fall, like Dylan Covey, AJ Cole, Karsten Whitson and even some of the polished college righties (gasp!).
That’s the highest future projection I’ve seen from Baseball Beginnings on anybody in this years draft. I think they only had Harper and Tallison at 58-59, yet Allie is projected at 62.
I love his stuff and his mechanics are clean, he seems like a great future SP or CP at worst. The thought of he and Miller in our system makes me salivate, but I would much rather have an impact high-school bat like Austin Wilson or Justin O’Conner..
Kolbrin Vitek is the guy I want the most outside of Austin Wilson. Allie is just too much risk for my liking, everything is almost completely dependent on a) his slider becoming a plus pitch and b) his command gets better. Not a huge desire to draft him at 25 unless the rest of the board isn’t looking very good.
Frankie Piliere at MLB Fanhouse has the Cardinals taking Matt Harvey.
@Karmaloop: He also has Vitek going to the Padres at #9. It doesn’t look like he will be there at #25.
I’m not sure we are going to get a good idea of who the Cards are targeting until they are almost on the clock.
@Karmaloop–according to that scouting report, his command is there on his fastball and change-up, plus he actually has two pretty different fastballs–a four-seam that sits in the mid-to-high 90s and a sinking low 90s two-seamer. A prep pitcher with two plus fastballs and a change-up and who throws without effort nor change in slot is a guy I would pick at 25.
‘Course, that’s only one scouting report.
If Vitnek doesn’t go at 9 to the Padres there is a good chance hes still aruond at 25. Allie has really solidified himself in the Top 15 in the last month or so so I really doubt he will be there at 25. The new consensus is that Allie is the second best HS arm behind Taillion.
That guy is the only person I heard of who like’s Alli’s command. Everyone else sees inconsistent delivery and high effort leading to poor control. do we think the cards can fix that?
Connor Glassey of BA tweeted Allie’s line this past Friday: 143 pitches (7IP, 5H, 6R, 7BB, 9K & 2HBP).
Allie is moving up draft boards the 2nd half of the season due to what many scouts consider major strides in his mechanics and control which go hand in hand. They are liking his secondary stuff more and more so the consensus is he will be a SP at the next level. With that said many think he goes in the Top 15-20 and many teams are in on him. I just don’t see him being there even if we wanted him. It is really hard to project on who will be available so late in the first round…but guys that might be there an attract me are Harvey, Cabrera, Wilson (bonus will be high), Castellanos, Eibner and Ranaudo (if his medicals check out OK and he finishes strong)
Stetson is a first round first name.
JC, so he is making major strides with control but walking/HBPing 9 high school hitters in his most recent outing? I can’t imagine how out of control he was before all these recent improvements.
The hype is out of control on this one.
@JC: asked Klaw about Wilson over twitter: “I don’t believe Austin Wilson has given out a number, but his parents are very pro-college. Money won’t be the deciding factor.”
I asked Jim Callis over twitter who he prefered, Harvey or Allie. He said both were very good arms but inconsistent, but he preferred Harvey because Harvey would provide help quicker. Also said that the Cards are playing pretty close to vest about their pick, and because they pick so long any one doing mock drafts was really just guessing. Although I definitely do believe Keith if he says he’s heard the Cards connected w/Allie.
I would be A-OK with Allie. Seems like a nice upside pick, and he’s generated a lot of noise among scouts from what I’ve heard as 2010 has gone on. I could see him falling before #25, though. Harvey or Gausmann would be nice too.
@Wade: I have read the same thing…but money talks more times than not. Both his parents are very pro-academics and his Stanford commitment will be tough to buy out. Money may not be the ultimate deciding factor but it will be one of the main factors IMO.
@Alex: Using one outing as a trend make me discount your post. I trust the experts opinions much more than your one game observation.
The thing is, even if the Cardinals HAVE been connected with Allie, they’re so far down the draft order that there’s a good chance someone else could take him first.
Perhaps instead of guessing who the Cardinals would pick, we should construct what we think their draft board Top 25 would or should theoretically look like. It would be a lot more work, but also possibly more fun and more constructive than guessing who will be there and who the Cardinals want.
@nmstar: 143 pitches? Xanadu. That high school coach should be tarred and feathered.