Comments on: Daily Farm Report 8/9/10

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 01:10:27 +0000

thanks

By: CRay

CRay — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:26:48 +0000

cc – you’re right to an extent. I am going somewhat on draft position and perceived potential and all my comments are based on a very small sample. But I will say Jackson didn’t impress me as a hitter when I saw him earlier – a real punch-and-judy type. Walsh and Obregon strike me as pretty much the same. Relatively few of the weak-hitting types make the majors unless they play exceptional defense, which was the basis for the Cards drafting Jackson (though I still see him as a long shot). Mateo might be a different matter. He appears to have a little pop in his bat, though I haven’t seen enough to judge him defensively. Besides that, nothing really stood out to me offensively. in the earlier game I saw, Niko had more pop in his bat and Stidham just has a great line-drive swing. Sorry it took so long for me to get back to answer your comment.

By: Felonius_Monk

Felonius_Monk — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:14:07 +0000

Cody Stanley 2010:
166 PAs in rookie ball as a 21-year-old out of college, .908 OPS.

Robert Stock 2009:
165 PAs in rookie ball as a 19-year-old out of college, .938 OPS. With a second fallback option as a pitcher.

It’s a little early to be getting excited about Stanley, don’t you think? He’s probably facing worse pitchers in JC than he was last year in college. I’m not convinced he’s even top 20 in this system tbh.

Agree with you about Swaggerty, though.

By: Felonius_Monk

Felonius_Monk — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:09:20 +0000

FR ate my lengthy reply because I didn’t fill in the email and name fields. Bah.

Suffice to say, the comp is a bizarre one (Barton & Hill), as Barton’s a lefty line-drive hitter with great patience, and Hill’s more a righty power guy. Hill’s never walked >10% clip at any level of the minors (except 30-odd PAs at Batavia) and Barton’s consistently walked at a >15% rate at pretty much every stop.

Barton is the SAME AGE as Hill and has a higher OBP this year in the MAJORS than Hill does in AA. Hill might hit for a bit of power but he’s an old-for-his-level guy with no other real tools. Those sort of guys are dime-a-dozen in most minor league systems. Ergo, he has no value in a trade, and he has no value to this club either as the positions he could handle (1B, maybe LF) are kinda occupied for the foreseeable future. He’s nice minor league filler and it’s nice to see him doing well but he’s not a prospect in any real sense.

By: jon

jon — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 04:23:54 +0000

steven hill called up to replace larue

By: db

db — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:16:23 +0000

Chris Notti, a reliever for QC, has pitched 16 consective innings without giving up a run now. His ERA is still above 4.00, but an impressive streak none the less.

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:38:52 +0000

CR – you need to elaborate because the facts known to those who didnt see the game would not support that Niko, Jackson, and Stidham are any more of prospects than the Mateo, Obregon, and Walsh. The latter 3 are actually doing very well considering each is only 20 y.o. (young for the league). Add to that that the night I believe you saw them they got 6 hits among them and I’m curious why you are so down on them.

By: Shanky

Shanky — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:04:15 +0000

I think you’re right on with your top 10. If you held a gun to my held though, I’d probably take Swagerty off, move M. Carpenter to his spot at 9, and put Stanley at 10. But I wouldn’t dislike Longmire in that spot either.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:10:07 +0000

You would have to assume that if/when the Cardinals signed Zack Cox, Austin Wilson, Tyrell Jenkins, Matthew Swagerty, Seth Blair (already signed) and Carlos Matias that they would all join Shelby Miller in the Cardinals top 10 Prospects, am I right? The question then becomes who fills out the last 3 spots.

Here is my wish list top 10:
1. Shelby Miller
2. Austin Wilson
3. Zack Cox
4. Carlos Matias
5. Oscar Tavares
6. Tyrell Jenkins
7. Seth Blair
8. Eduardo Sanchez
9. Matthew Swagerty
10. Descalso/ Stanley/ Longmire/ Carpenter

This just shows you how depleted our farm system was after rescent trades and with Daryl Jones, Lance Lynn, and Pete Kozma having down years. On top of that, Jamie Garcia, Allen Craig, Jon Jay, and David Freese have all graduated to the majors. Either way you would have to agree that the Cardinals front office and Luhnow have done a nice job re-stocking our farm system.

By: azruavatar

azruavatar — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:40:41 +0000