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	<title>Comments on: Daily Farm Report 06/15/2011</title>
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		<title>By: Hugecardsfan</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/06/16/daily-farm-report-06152011/comment-page-1/#comment-41361</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugecardsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any word on when Adams might be returning?   The guy sure was in a groove and hate to see the long layoff.   It hasn&#039;t helped Taveras.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word on when Adams might be returning?   The guy sure was in a groove and hate to see the long layoff.   It hasn&#8217;t helped Taveras.</p>
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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in nick stavinoha&#039;s roster spot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in nick stavinoha&#8217;s roster spot.</p>
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		<title>By: pitch and hit</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/06/16/daily-farm-report-06152011/comment-page-1/#comment-41231</link>
		<dc:creator>pitch and hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Hill really belongs in AAA in the everyday lineup, but where?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Hill really belongs in AAA in the everyday lineup, but where?</p>
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		<title>By: RichardRich</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichardRich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Hill is going to hold most of Springfield&#039;s career offensive records for a long, long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Hill is going to hold most of Springfield&#8217;s career offensive records for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>By: pitch and hit</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/06/16/daily-farm-report-06152011/comment-page-1/#comment-41221</link>
		<dc:creator>pitch and hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would place McC back in the bullpen for long relief and bring up Lynn.  He (Mc) isn&#039;t trained long term to be a starter, the injury is not surprising, but neither was his struggle last night. You are away from the game you got to adjust, didn&#039;t they give him any rehab innings anywhere?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would place McC back in the bullpen for long relief and bring up Lynn.  He (Mc) isn&#8217;t trained long term to be a starter, the injury is not surprising, but neither was his struggle last night. You are away from the game you got to adjust, didn&#8217;t they give him any rehab innings anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: pitch and hit</title>
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		<dc:creator>pitch and hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fel Monk is right kazmir&#039;s problem was that he was not a  pitch to contact pitcher but rather a strike out/fly out and he went deep in counts and high pitch counts. He most likely will go work on his stuff and try to come back in the spring on an invite to spring training. teams don&#039;t often give up on guys with that much talent.

I think this is one reason why they are trying to get Shelby to use secondary pitches, to keep his count lowso that over time he doesn&#039;t over pitch.   The strike outs are impressive but they dont come in a 3-5 pitch inning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fel Monk is right kazmir&#8217;s problem was that he was not a  pitch to contact pitcher but rather a strike out/fly out and he went deep in counts and high pitch counts. He most likely will go work on his stuff and try to come back in the spring on an invite to spring training. teams don&#8217;t often give up on guys with that much talent.</p>
<p>I think this is one reason why they are trying to get Shelby to use secondary pitches, to keep his count lowso that over time he doesn&#8217;t over pitch.   The strike outs are impressive but they dont come in a 3-5 pitch inning.</p>
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		<title>By: buchek's bat</title>
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		<dc:creator>buchek's bat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all the injuries and D.L. issues the offense, until recently, has held it&#039;s own. Holliday will be back tonight and Freese may well be by the first of the month. But the problem with the bullpen remains. (And so does the crappy middle infield defense, but that&#039;s for another discussion). Now, do you try to solve the bullpen woes internally by making Lynn the 5th starter and putting McClellan/Boggs back in the pen as higher leverage set-up men/spot starters? Or do you try to bring up Memphis guys for innings eaters in the bullpen (ala Hawksworth), or do you look externally for veteran relief help and spend some of your farm/current role players to obtain it?? It will be interesting to see how management seeks solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the injuries and D.L. issues the offense, until recently, has held it&#8217;s own. Holliday will be back tonight and Freese may well be by the first of the month. But the problem with the bullpen remains. (And so does the crappy middle infield defense, but that&#8217;s for another discussion). Now, do you try to solve the bullpen woes internally by making Lynn the 5th starter and putting McClellan/Boggs back in the pen as higher leverage set-up men/spot starters? Or do you try to bring up Memphis guys for innings eaters in the bullpen (ala Hawksworth), or do you look externally for veteran relief help and spend some of your farm/current role players to obtain it?? It will be interesting to see how management seeks solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: pitch and hit</title>
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		<dc:creator>pitch and hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, 108 is not bad as long as it wasn&#039;t 108 of labored innings. He throws pretty effortlessly as well. 108 also means he saw a lot of hitters, which lowered his ERA.

As CC suggested he might see time up there when the rosters expand if they are still playing. Even if just to get a few innings in. There is a big difference between AA and AAA.   By the time you reach AAA you are expected to have figured it out on your own, I am not sure he&#039;s ready for that.  I am not sure that moving anyone up (that young) 3 levels in a season is that productive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, 108 is not bad as long as it wasn&#8217;t 108 of labored innings. He throws pretty effortlessly as well. 108 also means he saw a lot of hitters, which lowered his ERA.</p>
<p>As CC suggested he might see time up there when the rosters expand if they are still playing. Even if just to get a few innings in. There is a big difference between AA and AAA.   By the time you reach AAA you are expected to have figured it out on your own, I am not sure he&#8217;s ready for that.  I am not sure that moving anyone up (that young) 3 levels in a season is that productive.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea he should finish the year in Springfield.  I listened to some of the game alot of K&#039;s were on fastballs on the corner and strikes where the batters swings at a elevated pitch.  Definately good but MLB hitters are less likely to do that.  Read an old interview from Walt Jocketty about Rick Ankiel before he was called up where Jocketty said he kind of hoped that Ankiel would struggle some at Memphis because it&#039;s better for young players to face adversity and failure for the first time in there lives in the minors rather than in the Majors.  Unfortunately he didn&#039;t and we saw what it was like when he first ffaced failure in the Bigs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea he should finish the year in Springfield.  I listened to some of the game alot of K&#8217;s were on fastballs on the corner and strikes where the batters swings at a elevated pitch.  Definately good but MLB hitters are less likely to do that.  Read an old interview from Walt Jocketty about Rick Ankiel before he was called up where Jocketty said he kind of hoped that Ankiel would struggle some at Memphis because it&#8217;s better for young players to face adversity and failure for the first time in there lives in the minors rather than in the Majors.  Unfortunately he didn&#8217;t and we saw what it was like when he first ffaced failure in the Bigs.</p>
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		<title>By: T Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very true, Shelby does need time to develop his pitches and command thereof and Springfield is a good place for him to do this. 

However, if I can present a counterpoint, it might be the case that Springfield is not the appropriate place for his development. If Shelby keeps overwhelming the Texas League on pure stuff alone, Memphis or maybe even the major leagues could be the appropriate place for his continued development. This would be a similar situation to other talented prospects like Heyward or Hosmer who still have facets of their games to improve, but were not receiving sufficient resistance at lower levels to spur their development. 

***Let me just say that I agree w/ &quot;Pitch and Hit&quot; that I would prefer if Shelby finishes the year in Springfield.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, Shelby does need time to develop his pitches and command thereof and Springfield is a good place for him to do this. </p>
<p>However, if I can present a counterpoint, it might be the case that Springfield is not the appropriate place for his development. If Shelby keeps overwhelming the Texas League on pure stuff alone, Memphis or maybe even the major leagues could be the appropriate place for his continued development. This would be a similar situation to other talented prospects like Heyward or Hosmer who still have facets of their games to improve, but were not receiving sufficient resistance at lower levels to spur their development. </p>
<p>***Let me just say that I agree w/ &#8220;Pitch and Hit&#8221; that I would prefer if Shelby finishes the year in Springfield.</p>
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