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		<title>By: SLCard</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/06/28/four-players-ready-for-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-42656</link>
		<dc:creator>SLCard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 03:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holliday is only a plus glove in LF and Rasmus is only a plus glove some of the time (although he certainly has the talent to be one all the time).  No argument on Jay, but he is the starter in the absence of Pujols with Puma over at 1st.  I don&#039;t disagree with Brown&#039;s value, but I do like to have a glove guy on the bench as well as a speed guy for those late inning situations.  While the Cards have some guys who are faster than others, lets not fool ourselves, they have no true speed guy on the team right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holliday is only a plus glove in LF and Rasmus is only a plus glove some of the time (although he certainly has the talent to be one all the time).  No argument on Jay, but he is the starter in the absence of Pujols with Puma over at 1st.  I don&#8217;t disagree with Brown&#8217;s value, but I do like to have a glove guy on the bench as well as a speed guy for those late inning situations.  While the Cards have some guys who are faster than others, lets not fool ourselves, they have no true speed guy on the team right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guessing it&#039;s more of a logjam issue further up the tree, as opposed to a performance issue.  Until there&#039;s space for him I guess they can&#039;t move him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guessing it&#8217;s more of a logjam issue further up the tree, as opposed to a performance issue.  Until there&#8217;s space for him I guess they can&#8217;t move him.</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm.  Way to not address any of my points in any way.

Not that I&#039;m arguing for it, you understand, but the reasons one might choose to deal Swagerty for Bell are
a) we&#039;re in a contending year and the 1-2 wins Bell might add over the rest of the way are highly valuable in a likely very close NLC finish.
b) and more importantly, IF (as I said) Bell is a type A and the compensation set-up in MLB remains much the same, he will net us 1 or 2 high draft picks in the next year&#039;s draft, which are likely worth as much as or more than Swagerty, a guy who I really like and who&#039;s had fine results so far but who likely isn&#039;t going to be more than a back-of-the-rotation starter or set-up guy in the majors.

The Padres likely wouldn&#039;t accept Swagerty for Bell anyway; they can simply keep him and gain a couple of draft picks next year, which i expect they&#039;ll do if they don&#039;t get a better offer than a low-to-mid-ceiling, high-A starter.

FWIW I agree with your point that a closer isn&#039;t really required, but it&#039;s unarguable that Bell would improve our bullpen greatly (I can&#039;t see Sanchez back, and really, with the possible exception of Salas, none of the other guys in that pen likely have late-inning roles on many contending teams.  It&#039;s a weak pen, and if we make the playoffs, I really think our poor pitching in the rotation &amp; bullpen makes us a rank outsider).  Personally, I&#039;d rather pick up a left-handed reliever, because Miller and Tallet both royally suck, but if the asking price for Bell is as little as Jordan Swagerty,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm.  Way to not address any of my points in any way.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m arguing for it, you understand, but the reasons one might choose to deal Swagerty for Bell are<br />
a) we&#8217;re in a contending year and the 1-2 wins Bell might add over the rest of the way are highly valuable in a likely very close NLC finish.<br />
b) and more importantly, IF (as I said) Bell is a type A and the compensation set-up in MLB remains much the same, he will net us 1 or 2 high draft picks in the next year&#8217;s draft, which are likely worth as much as or more than Swagerty, a guy who I really like and who&#8217;s had fine results so far but who likely isn&#8217;t going to be more than a back-of-the-rotation starter or set-up guy in the majors.</p>
<p>The Padres likely wouldn&#8217;t accept Swagerty for Bell anyway; they can simply keep him and gain a couple of draft picks next year, which i expect they&#8217;ll do if they don&#8217;t get a better offer than a low-to-mid-ceiling, high-A starter.</p>
<p>FWIW I agree with your point that a closer isn&#8217;t really required, but it&#8217;s unarguable that Bell would improve our bullpen greatly (I can&#8217;t see Sanchez back, and really, with the possible exception of Salas, none of the other guys in that pen likely have late-inning roles on many contending teams.  It&#8217;s a weak pen, and if we make the playoffs, I really think our poor pitching in the rotation &amp; bullpen makes us a rank outsider).  Personally, I&#8217;d rather pick up a left-handed reliever, because Miller and Tallet both royally suck, but if the asking price for Bell is as little as Jordan Swagerty,</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t need another OF glove IMO.  Chambers is a left-handed CF and we already have two of those on the roster (this isn&#039;t a knock on Chambers btw, who I like as a prospect and who I think may make Jon Jay eminently tradeable, but I just don&#039;t see him as a good fit right now.  If anything, Andrew Brown, who is a right-handed power bat, should be up instead of Hamilton, as our hitting on the bench seems a bit lefty-heavy for my tastes.  I&#039;m just not convinced a defensive sub is required when we have three plus gloves (Jay, Rasmus, Holliday)).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t need another OF glove IMO.  Chambers is a left-handed CF and we already have two of those on the roster (this isn&#8217;t a knock on Chambers btw, who I like as a prospect and who I think may make Jon Jay eminently tradeable, but I just don&#8217;t see him as a good fit right now.  If anything, Andrew Brown, who is a right-handed power bat, should be up instead of Hamilton, as our hitting on the bench seems a bit lefty-heavy for my tastes.  I&#8217;m just not convinced a defensive sub is required when we have three plus gloves (Jay, Rasmus, Holliday)).</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[casey mulligan put up gaudy K numbers with a barely-90mph FB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>casey mulligan put up gaudy K numbers with a barely-90mph FB.</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[see below]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see below</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/06/28/four-players-ready-for-promotions/comment-page-1/#comment-42448</link>
		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, you&#039;re both wrong - I just (for some reason) wrote &quot;Adams&quot; instead of &quot;Adron&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re both wrong &#8211; I just (for some reason) wrote &#8220;Adams&#8221; instead of &#8220;Adron&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: siddfynch</title>
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		<dc:creator>siddfynch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 06:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve lost faith in the Cards&#039; willingness to seize on potential draft pick opportunities.  It seems like it&#039;s a relatively low strategic priority to them, so I&#039;d rather see them hold onto the Faberge egg in this case...if the egg is named Rosenthal or Swagerty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lost faith in the Cards&#8217; willingness to seize on potential draft pick opportunities.  It seems like it&#8217;s a relatively low strategic priority to them, so I&#8217;d rather see them hold onto the Faberge egg in this case&#8230;if the egg is named Rosenthal or Swagerty.</p>
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		<title>By: SLCard</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLCard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to say not a chance, Marte has an ERA of 1.89 right now at Memphis, and while he certainly hasn&#039;t ever pitched that well at the ML level, he does have experience.  I think it more likely to see a RH reliever (or two) arrive via a trade, whether it be Bell or whomever, but I wouldn&#039;t rule out seeing Marte in STL this year.  Fick, on the other hand, in spite of a nice 2.79 ERA, concerns me a bit with his K/BB split (35/21).  If he could maintain that ERA in the ML with that split, great, but not sure it will transition that smoothly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to say not a chance, Marte has an ERA of 1.89 right now at Memphis, and while he certainly hasn&#8217;t ever pitched that well at the ML level, he does have experience.  I think it more likely to see a RH reliever (or two) arrive via a trade, whether it be Bell or whomever, but I wouldn&#8217;t rule out seeing Marte in STL this year.  Fick, on the other hand, in spite of a nice 2.79 ERA, concerns me a bit with his K/BB split (35/21).  If he could maintain that ERA in the ML with that split, great, but not sure it will transition that smoothly.</p>
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		<title>By: SLCard</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLCard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another guy, IMO, ready for a promotion is Sam Freeman to AAA.  Keep in mind, this is a guy that the Cards thought highly enough of last season to call in early for at least a cameo in big league camp, of course only to discover he needed TJ surgery.  But, while I keep hearing his velocity is not all the way back yet, his results have been pretty good.  With Valdes up to ML, Freeman makes sense to the &#039;pen in Memphis.  Also, it is my hope he would show enough that he could be in STL this season.   I believe that if Valdes shows he can handle that spot in the Cards &#039;pen, either Tallet or Miller will be cut.  My hope is that, barring massive improvement from the one of those guys who isn&#039;t cut, Freeman could be added to the 40-man and given a chance to join Valdes in improving upon what, at least to these eyes, looks like one of the worst left-handed sides of a bullpen in baseball.  I believe Freeman will require 40-man protection this offseason regardless, and I don&#039;t think many people expect to see Tallet or Miller in STL next year, regardless of whether Valdes is able to actually displace them now anyhow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another guy, IMO, ready for a promotion is Sam Freeman to AAA.  Keep in mind, this is a guy that the Cards thought highly enough of last season to call in early for at least a cameo in big league camp, of course only to discover he needed TJ surgery.  But, while I keep hearing his velocity is not all the way back yet, his results have been pretty good.  With Valdes up to ML, Freeman makes sense to the &#8216;pen in Memphis.  Also, it is my hope he would show enough that he could be in STL this season.   I believe that if Valdes shows he can handle that spot in the Cards &#8216;pen, either Tallet or Miller will be cut.  My hope is that, barring massive improvement from the one of those guys who isn&#8217;t cut, Freeman could be added to the 40-man and given a chance to join Valdes in improving upon what, at least to these eyes, looks like one of the worst left-handed sides of a bullpen in baseball.  I believe Freeman will require 40-man protection this offseason regardless, and I don&#8217;t think many people expect to see Tallet or Miller in STL next year, regardless of whether Valdes is able to actually displace them now anyhow.</p>
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