If I wrote about Matt Adams everyday, I’d probably double our traffic here. Despite the internet wrangling and discussion, Matt Adams just continues to hit. And hit. And hit. That’s what he does. But he does so in a rather perplexing way. He doesn’t walk much (BB% < 8), swings at a ton of pitches but makes contact consistently (K% <= 20) and hits for immense power (ISO > .200). That’s an unusual skillset.
It’s not that difficult to come up with players who hit for power and don’t strike out an egregious amount. Alex Rodriguez, David Ortiz or Mark Teixeira are all guys that have moderate strikeout rates and hit for elite power. They also all walk a lot more than Matt Adams with walk rates near 12%.
There’s a couple of players that get closer. Chase Utley has a career walk rate of 9.8%, strikeout rate of 17.7% and ISO of .219. He’s walked more the longer he’s been in the majors. Realistically though, there’s little physical comparison to be drawn between the trim, elite defender at second base and the not trim, not elite defender at first base Matt Adams. That still doesn’t have the look or feel of an adequate comparison.
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Tony Batista played for 7 teams over 11 seasons accumulating a stat line of a player who hit for power, didn’t walk and didn’t strikeout a ton. The Batista comparison falls apart because he also hit for a career .251 batting average and Adams is currently hitting for a career average closer to .330.
Assuming Adams is a elite power producer (ISO > .200) there are two comparisons from the modern era (90s, 00s) that seem to be adequate. If you think his batting average might slack off a bit, you could draw a line between Adams and Jermaine Dye. Dye hit for power but only walked 8% of the time. He struck out in 20% of his plate appearances. Jermaine Dye had some very good seasons (1999-2001) and some clunkers (2003, 2007). His career batting line was .274/.338/.488, which isn’t an unreasonable forecast for Matt Adams.
There’s another player that looks a little bit more similar though. This player didn’t spend long in the minors but hit for a .313/.375/.572 minor league line. Great power? Check. High batting average? Check. Strikeout rate? 17.5%, check. Low walk rate? 8.1%, check. Those numbers aren’t terrible off what Matt Adams is doing in the minors right now. That player is Ryan Braun. It helps that Braun is also a less than stellar defender. This is certainly an absolute best case scenario type of comparison but there it is, for whatever it’s worth.
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I was thinking of Dave Kingman as a comp (not body wise but tremendous power, high k rate, bad defender).
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1006939&position=1B/OF
If Adams makes it as a major leaguer I doubt he has a k rate approaching Kingmanian proportions though.
Kingman didn’t hit for average either.
Going to throw another best case scenerio comp out there too, Kendry Morales. Walk rate 6.9%, batting average .284, ISO .217, and strike out rate at 18%. All numbers are for Morales’ career, which might I add has been spent at first base.
I like the morales comp
If he turns out like Braun, will I be happy….. add another check to that
Good write up
Yep, definitely. As Az says, that’s like the top 1% of his projection, probably, but it’s not impossible. Again, though, perhaps it’s not a perfect comp – Braun has more speed, and seems to hit quite a few infield singles, which won’t be part of Adams’ game, and I think his major league walkrate (up over 8% over the last three years) is probably a tick ahead of what Adams can/will do, but I also think it’s possible Adams has more raw power, which is very exciting.
Morales is a comp I hadn’t thought about (dave barry above) and it seems like a really good one. What does concern me, though, is that Morales is a + defender and has only been an average player by WAR so far (about 2 WAR per 600PA), which I think might be what Adams ends up doing with weaker defense.
What about Pablo Sandoval? Real free-swinger, 7% career BB rate (somewhere around Adams), 14% K rate (which I think might be a touch lower than Adams in the majors but a reasonable comp). I think Adams can do a bit better than Sandoval’s .178 ISO, and obviously we’re comparing a limited 1B to a defensively competent 3B, but again I think it’s not a bad comp – free swinger with good contact skills and power.
I posted this about a month ago, but feel like this is a good place to post it again.
Since 2000, only three first basemen have had over 1 WAR with a walk rate below 7%, which is what Adams is currently posting, and statistically walk rates drop on average 10% of a players total when switching from minor league totals to major leagues.
Those three players are Shea Hillibrand, Jorge Cantu and kendrys morales. Hillebrand amazingly stayed around the major leagues for years despite posting a career .326 woba, but also played over half his career at third base, allowing for a positional adjustment to up his WAR.
Jorge Cantu is very similar in that he has played multiple positions and benefited from positional adjustments despite a career .326 wOBA.
So the real comparable here is Kendrys Morales who has played all but 76 innings at first base. His Career 4 WAR are aided by his slightly above average defense to a small amount, but his career . 352 wOBA has done most of the work. He has struck out 17% of the time, and walked 6.9% in his big league career, which would be optimistic but not unreasonable to expect out of adams. that’s 4 war in 330 career games, making morales a tick under league average for his career. Not a useless player, but not someone to get extremely excited about either.
In a nutshell, First base requires a very high level of offensive performance, and It would be an aberration for adams to meet even Morales levels of production.
I’m sorry but Kendry (not Kendrys) Morales looked to be far more than what you described as “not a useless player but not someone to get extremely excited about…” Morales only had one full year of baseball and he was #5 in the MVP ranking that year. The next year he fractured his leg and continues to struggle with a corresponding ankle injury. No telling how good the guy would have been without destroying his wheels.
I really don’t see any value in the efforts to comp Matt Adams. He’s gonna be Matt Adams and no one else. But, as things go, Kendry is as good a comp as one could reasonably find given age and power issues except, of course, that Matt Adams OPS is about 50 pts higher than Kendry’s minor league numbers.
Just nitpicking, but it is “Kendrys” not “Kendry” like you tried to correct.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/10/sports/la-sp-0310-angels-fyi-20110310
Actually it’s not…but I understand the confusion. Interestingly, even the wikipedia titles the old, incorrect, spelling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrys_Morales
Personal life: Morales has a wife, Yarley, with whom he has two kids: Hanely and Kendrys Jr. He also has a younger brother Daniel who plays ball at ISU. Until March 2011, Morales’ first name was spelled wrong; the “s” was on his first name for years.
…correction. It looks like he has indeed gone back to original spelling of Kendrys. My bad.
330 career games is a little more than one season, and mvp voters are not smart. In 2009, the year you’re referring to, Kendrys had 3.4 WAR, which put him as something like the 30th most valuable player in the American league.
I said he only had one full year. He had 3 partials before 2009 and then the injury shortened year. I’m not gonna argue merit with you as that is unprovable but .306 .355 .569 924 is a helluva year in the major leagues. What we do know is that it was the only full year he had in the majors.
I guess we’re just going to ignore he was demoted for poor performance, and played out those “partials” in the minors.
andres galarraga is a good comp. minor-league career totals = 7.7 % walk rate, 19.3% k rate, .274 batting avg., .191 iso power.
galarraga came up at age 24 and had a decent run in ages 26 through 28 —- three-year slash line of .288 / .347 / .479, with an OPS+ of 126 and a cumulative WAR total of 9.3. nice production from a guy making close to the minimum.
his next three years stunk —- slash .242 / .289 / .383, negative cumulative WAR — before Mile High Stadium and Coors Field rescued his career.
This seems to be the best comp I’ve seen.
Unless you include defense. Andres was pretty smooth around the bag.
What about Vlad?
Walk rate – 7.4 % K Rate – 12.2 % ISO – .238
Slash lines – 318/380/556
The slash line could be a stretch but the other rates seem realistic.
those are MLB career numbers
.345 .406 .585 991 His minor league numbers…. Not that far off of Adams’.
Adams has less than 700 AB’s in full season ball. He came from a division II school. I think we need to realize that Adams isn’t a finished product yet.
I’d like to see more walks. I think just like a pitcher working on his off speed stuff even if he can blow the FB by minor league hitters that a position player needs to work on things such as taking walks even if he can hit over .300 without doing so. I’m willing to give Adams a little more time to work on those things before I lock him into a statistical comp.
I dislike SPC”s as much as ZiPS for minor league players. Players like Andy LaRoche, Brandon Wood and Dallas McPherson has greats stats and even big time prospect love and done noting but a guy like Matt Holliday was average in the minors but became a All-Star in the majors I wonder what his SPC would been?
For what it is worth, in Thursday’s chat with Keith Law at the ESPN site, he was asked whether he thought Adams was a Top 50 guy for next year and his reply was, “Don’t know if he has anything like that kind of ceiling, but he is definitely a prospect, chance to be more than an everyday guy. Not to be all Captain Obvious, but when the prospect in question is all bat, you’d like to see a better walk rate, than he’s shown. Hit & power tools are real.”
I find that to be very encouraging.
I’m handicapped because I haven’t seen him play, but I’m intrigued by the Vlad comparison. According to Stat Corner, Adams strikes out swinging about 2x for every caught-looking K. So my blind guess is that he swings at a lot of pitches out of the zone.
So for those who’ve seen him, is he a bad-ball hitter? Does he get at least some of his hits that way, or does he typically miss when he fishes?
Goold’s article in the P-D says that Adams went to a longer bat this season. That immediately made me think of Vlad (as well as other famous bad-ball hitters). I assume a longer bat would make it easier to reach beyond the strike zone.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_64368cdc-1ba7-52b0-909f-33a00938a967.html
I like the career Ryan Braun (142 OPS+) or ’09 Morales (139 OPS+) comps best—both emotionally (of course) and intellectually.
All three guys played in AA at age 22, and here’s how they stack up:
Morales hit .306/.349/.530, for an OPS 133 points above the Texas League, and a 17/43 BB/K.
Braun hit .303/.367/.589, for an OPS 266 points above the Southern League, with a 21/46 BB/K.
Adams so far is .351/.393/.667, or exactly .300 points above the T.L. this year, and a 16/41 BB/K.
Morales is clearly behind the other two…but then, he was also several months their junior, so I’d call it a wash overall. Now, if we consider Adams’ month of April as his adjustment period after making the double-jump in leagues, he’s hitting more like .380/.435/.765, for a cool 1.200 OPS, or 440 points above his league.
Below-average walk rate or not, I’m sold on Adams as one of the top 6 or 8 pure hitting prospects in all the minors. :)
So too is Goold:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_64368cdc-1ba7-52b0-909f-33a00938a967.html
Adams has power, and complete package
[azru edit: Please don't reprint the entire article in the comments. Besides being a free article, Derrick has been very good to us here at FR and I'd especially like to respect the copyright associated with his work.]
Interesting that a Braves scout finds Adams the top position prospect since Colby.
I will be shocked if he even tops Freddie Freeman numbers from right now in his career, a lot of people are going to be heartbroken over this kid not living up to these expectations of a major spike in numbers n a hitters league.
I’m not shocked that you would be shocked. I would be shocked if you were actually right.
Since you seem to think any player who has a good month is a good prospect and start projecting them into the big league plans I don’t think you are the one to even dare talk about someone being right or wrong on players. If I’m not mistaken you were calling for Hoff and Tyler Greene as starters at one point based off minors stats.
Adams wasn’t even in the Top 30 last year after a good year and now people are acting like he’s a future All-Star and elite prospect. Adams just like Castellanos, Jackson’s and others are boosted by the Texas league especially Hammons Field and are the newest guys in a long line of hyperventilation over position players who see offensive spikes once they get to Springfield who fans flip over.
The team HPGF caught on because its accurate and fits a large percentages of Cardinal nation.
Since you are obviously prone to hyperbole, it is far more likely that you are the one who shouldn’t be trying to project players. If Adams is your example of “any player who has a good month” then you know less than most any poster on the forum.
Who cares where Adams was ranked last year. He caught lots of attention after tearing up in QC. Coming from Slippery Rock and being a 23rd round pick meant it took more than one year for scouts to become believers. Now the only criticism they have is his propensity to walk. They don’t even have a problem with his weight any more. Hitting the pee out of a ball will do that for you.
Of course Adams is helped by the Texas League, just like every position prospect who ever played there. But the discriminator is only if he didn’t play well. Not a problem.
His short compact swing and power project anyplace and the scouts are quickly noticing. You’re the one who remains clueless. You continue to argue the issue even though he continues to run the table on your feeble argument. You did, after all, start your complaint over 50 BA pts, and 100 OBP and slugging pts lower.
Yep those scouts are sure noticing quickly, He’s only had 2 years of hitting and they didn’t even put him in the Top-30.
You are who you are Huge, you will love every guy with stats and overrate them to no end and get on anyone else who points out flaws. Its fine to fall in love with every guy who has a good stretch but its gets old when you attempt to hate on people here who actually want to have an realistic baseball discussion.
Such a small amount of even elite level prospects even make but you get so bent out of shape if someone doesn’t think our guys will pan out even if its a non prospect or a low level guy.
There are 44 1B and DH spots in the majors most are held down by for 6-10 years at a time and most all of them are by guys who were viewed as an elite prospect at one time. What makes it such a sure bet Adams is going to go from out of the Top-30 into one of those jobs when every team have guys with stats?
Like I said you are prone to hyperbole. You are clueless about me just as you are clueless about Adams. I see players as they are not as I’d like them to be…. your childish depiction notwithstanding.
Since you can’t win the argument on merit you have chosen to attack the poster. Most everybody sees thru that even if you can’t.
Where did I attack you I told how you view these kids which is spot on and you know it. If anyone is attacking someone its clearly you dude.
You couldn’t be more wrong. You lost the argument on the facts so you tried to make it about my perceptions. I’m dead on about Adams and all that other trash regarding how I see players is hyperbole a pure figment of your imagination.
I’d just like to say three things.
1. Last time I checked, not being high on the “prospect radar” of those experts does not mean you don’t have talent. No one saw Pujols coming for instance.
2. Adams OPS away from Hammons Field is .986. That is very close to a 1.000 OPS, which is utterly ridiculous. His home OPS of 1.146 is even more ridiculous but I find it hard to believe you think his home numbers are making his AA numbers deceptive.
3. This notion that because Adams is in the Texas League we should write off his numbers is ridiculous. A few reasons why. First, Adams was leading the Texas League before his injury in homers, RBIs, BA, and SLG % after 2 months. His OPS was in the top 3 as well. Over halfway through the season, he’s still ranked highly in many categories. That means that if we write off Matt Adams, the former/current leader of these categories, that we have to write off EVERY HITTER’S numbers in the Texas League. That includes Mike Trout, the supposed #1 prospect in baseball. That doesn’t make sense to me.
Secondly, how many MLB players go through the Texas League on their path to the majors? I am sure hundreds have. And I am sure that many of them have not come anywhere close to putting some of the BA and power numbers he has put up in 200+ ABs. What am I trying to say here? Am I saying that means that he is better than all of those guys? NO. But I am saying that not everybody can do what he has. What he is doing takes talent. Freakish talent. To write that off is being disingenuous.
Well said.
2011 1B and the BA Top-100 Peak.
Mark Teixeira #1
Adrian Gonzalez #31
Casey Kotchman #6
Adam Lind #39
Derrek Lee #15
Matt LaPorta #27
Miguel Cabrera #12
Paul Konerko #2
Justin Morneau #14
Eric Hosmer #8
Mitch Moreland NR
Mark Trumbo NR fill in for Kendrys Morales #76
Justin Smoak #13 *Traded for C Lee allowed Moreland got his Texas Job
Daric Barton #28
Ryan Howard #27
Freddie Freeman #17
Ike Davis #62
Adam LaRoche #73
Gaby Sanchez NR
Albert Pujols #42
Prince Fielder #10
Joey Votto #43
Lyle Overbay #65
Carlos Pena #5
Brett Wallace #27
Aubrey Huff #44
PLATOON: Juan Miranda NA/Russell Branyan #26 then Xavier Nady #39
Todd Helton #11
James Loney #34
Anthony Rizzo #75
Also in the photo are all the new early round draft picks and these Top-50′s
Brandon Belt #13 Hurt for Giants
Chris Carter #28 Took over for Barton on A’s
Yonder Alonso #35 One of Reds top trade Chips
Jonathan Singleton #39 Only in Hi-A
Kyle Blanks #50 Back from Injury
They don’t always get it right:
Rocco Baldelli #2
Jesse Foppert #5
Scott Kazmir #7
Delmon Young #1
Rick Ankiel #2
Daisuke Matsuzaka #1
Lastings Milledge #9
Alex Gordon #2
Homer Bailey #5
In fact, here’s your top ten of 2008:
1. Rick Porcello, rhp
2. Ryan Perry, rhp
3. Cale Iorg, ss
4. Casey Crosby, lhp
5. Jeff Larish, 1b/3b
6. Wilkin Ramirez, of
7. Scott Sizemore, 2b
8. Cody Satterwhite, rhp
9. Dusty Ryan, c
10. Guillermo Moscoso, rhp
How’s that for gagging a maggot?
Tigers
Why did you post the Tigers Top-10?
I find it ironic you call Gordon a bust when he had a 1.016 OPS in just over 1000 MILB PA with no time under Double-A but around 50 rehab PA and Adams has a .948 in about the same PA. By your minor league numbers carry over the majors M.O. he should have way higher than his .756 OPS and even way higher than his 2011 .859 OPS. I also find it ironic a guy having better year than Rasmus by .080 points and with the same OPS Colby had last year is a bust on your list.
I find it ironic that you argue that because in two years BA didn’t place Adams in their top 100 that it means he can’t be a fine player.
Interestingly, Roy Oswalt, also a late draft selection, pitched 4 (read that FOUR) years without making the top 100 list. He was finally added in 2001, his first year in the majors… and the year he was voted #5 on the CY.
I love how you will reach and reach to find some type of angle to prop our guys up in the same sentence with established guys, they honestly should put you on the payroll.
Oswalt pitched his first 2 years in SS ball and had a high ERA in his first full season year and then he had a good year and he was 13th before his season he made his big league debut. Adams already had a good year in full season ball and didn’t even make the clubs prospect list let alone the Top-100.
Hugecardsfan where did I lose this augments on facts, have you even posted any? I gave you where the MLB 1B come from and you gave me noting but he will make it because he’s a Cardinal. He’s not even the highest OPS’ing 1B in the minors right now and he has less AB than the ones up that high!
1.115 in 277 Bryan LaHair
1.109 in 272 Kody Hinze
1.097 in 235 Mike Zuanich *Two Levels
1.076 in 289 Paul Goldschmidt
1.057 in 225 Matt Adams
1.046 in 250 David Cooper
1.018 in 283 Miles Head *Two Levels
Fill me in why is it a lock Adams will hold down one the 44 places in the majors he’s capable of playing? Hamilton has hit for a .971 OPS in Triple-A and he can’t even get to play a full game in the majors at 1st yet with Albert hurt.
I’ve posted nothing but facts. You have posted innuendo…for instance…he can’t make it to the majors because BA hasn’t listed him in the top 100 after 2 years. Big whoop! Notice the Roy Oswalt example. 4 years left off the BA top 100…but he still seems to have had a pretty decent career…
You lost this on facts because you don’t have any to refute his success. You argue he’s topped out? What facts lead you to that conclusion? Bryan Anderson? That was your argument. That’s not facts Rich. That’s poor logic.
You argue that he can’t be a good player because he can only play 1st base. First off, that is erroneous. There are 15 DH positions he could also play. Second, he may well end up trying the outfield as other big men have done… such as Adam Dunn. Finally, you have nothing but opinion to argue that he won’t make it at 1st base.
An Atlanta scout just told Goold that he might be better than Freddy Freeman but you choose to ignore that because it doesn’t fit your agenda.
The scouting world is sitting up and taking notice that Adams is taking AA pitching apart, but you stick to your mantra…. Can’t walk….can’t walk….can’t walk….and yet his production mounts.
It’s you Rich who has no facts. Richie has no clothes.
P.S. That Hamilton isn’t playing first is not a true statement. He has played there in spots to include last night. That he hasn’t taken the position in Albert’s absence is not an argument against Adams. Hamilton has holes in his swing that Adams doesn’t.
What Hamilton does or does not do in 2011 has nothing to do with what Adams does in 2013….and that is a fact.
Hamilton hasn’t even been allowed to play a full game at first!
So what, Rich? Is that because Adams isn’t in the top 100 of BA? If not, then I fail to see any relevance whatsoever….as facts go.
It shows stats don’t mean a damn thing, Hamilton has been one the premier 1B in the PCL and he be trusted to go 9 innings but somehow Adams having a 225 AB spike in production means he’s a future starting position player.
I already showed how that Oswalt ploy was weak trash, and showed you it takes a ton for a guy to get handed a 1B job in the majors without being Top-100 and even the guys who weren’t where in Top-10′s behind MLB players and guys still prospects.
Statistically he has topped out is he going to carry that OPS into the majors, clearly not. How many of those 14 DH jobs are handed to kids? Atlanta doesn’t even have a team in the Texas League or MWL so not sure how a scout could come up with something that crazy with seeing him limited times but I can’t even image that you hold much hope at happening.
FF born 11/12/1989 with 309 AB in MLB
MA born 08/31/1988 with 225 AB in AA
But even if that guy buys that its one guy what about all the ones who didn’t like him enough to get him in our Top-30 or the MWL Top-20 are those guys who point out all his flaws are they wrong or just haters in your book because I have talked to several in Springfield who aren’t sold on him even with his stats?
Do you know how many guys produce in the minors and never get a starting job in the majors, let alone one at 1B or DH?
BTW here are the 2011 DH and ages
Jorge Posada 39
David Ortiz 35
Johnny Damon 37
Edwin Encarnacion 28
Vladimir Guerrero 36
Travis Hafner 34
Victor Martinez 32
Adam Dunn 31
Jim Thome 40
Billy Butler 25
Michael Young 34
Bobby Abreu 37
Jack Cust 32
Hideki Matsui 37
2 players under 30 they both can’t play defense one of the 2 is about out of the league the other has a Top-10 prospect playing 1st in front of him.
Oh, and Rich, Brian LaHair? Really? A 28 year old AAAA. Apparently you don’t get this prospect thing at all.
Only numbers matter in your world right? Production, Production, Production!
You should be embarrassed for even using Brian LaHair as an argument for anything. That was nothing but smoke. The guy is in his 6th year of PCL. You clearly don’t get understand anything about prospects.
You somehow think that you satisfactorily explained Oswalt not making the top 100 list as a reasonable exception to your argument that Adams can’t make it in the majors…. Your logic has completely failed you and you don’t even see it.
You don’t get it do you?
Like you said “and yet his production mounts” since all you do is pimp production whats the deal? I guess you’re not a sucker for stats as much as a sucker for Cardinals with stats. If production in hitters leagues mattered as much as you lead on then LaHair should get a starting job next year right?
Also if you can’t understand a pitcher spending 2 years in SS ball and then having a 4.5 ERA his first full year and then moving to 13th after a great year than I can help you here! Adams already had a good full season and didn’t even get near 13th in our organization which was in ranked poorly.
You can’t tell a prospect from a 28 yo AAAA candidate and I should apologize because I can…even if he wears Birds on Bats….? You should leave the discussion about prospects to the big boy table. You got nothing.
Roy Oswalt had big league talent throughout the minors. The scouts weren’t willing to acknowledge it until Roy was ready to hit the majors. The same has been true of others and is true of Adams… But don’t let facts get in your way.
You take great pride in belittling Cardinal prospects as if it were a right of passage. You’re wrong about Adams. So quit whining as he proves it.
I know how old Lahair is, I’m just using your flawed production is production philosophy. You talk out your but non-stop if Oswalt spent two years in SS leagues and had then had 4.46 ERA and 1.31 WHIP in his first full season he didn’t do anything to get prospect love and when he did they rewarded him by going all the way to 13th and you want to talk about letting facts get in the way.
How do I take pride in knocking Cards guys, And how am I wrong about Adams other than because you said so with no facts to support your point?
Great questions. When you get the answers maybe you can get some help.
LaHair was smoke and you got caught with your pants down. When in a hole stop digging.
Nobody here hates the Cardinals prospects and people who say that come off as unbelievably childish and frankly stupid, most here understand so few prospects ever make it and its an even harder task to break in at 1st. But when those people talk flaws are want to have a honest baseball talk the few sheep here call them haters because that section of the fans think every guy is going to make it big since he’s with us and that same group also tends to view other teams actually good prospects as lesser players.
LaHair isn’t anything but mocking you stupid view of thinking minor league stats mean major league success. Every single prospect who has a good run you start talking about them as a big part of the Cardinals future. Its something you have done for a long time.
Why is Adams a lock to be a everyday MLB 1B other than because you like him and he’s a Cardinal farm hand?
I agree that you come of childish and frankly stupid. So at least we can agree on that. No one said you hate Cardinal prospects. But, you have been very busy belittling Adams and anyone who likes his chances. Hey, it’s your problem. No one else’s. Maybe you can find a little balance by staying off Cardinal forums for a while.
No one argues that Adams can’t improve aspects of his game. But, given his success, only an ignoramus would argue he has no chance. He’ll play pro ball and be a very good hitter. I’ll gladly bet you serious money on that. Adams does wear BoB’s and I don’t apologize for that when I assess his talent. You simply think you know something that you don’t.
It is true that LaHair isn’t anything and it was very stupid of you to bring him up.
No LaHair is an perfect example of how dumb your view of production in minors means MLB success is. Countless guys put up numbers in the minors yet never make it, and there are as many 3-4-5 hitters in the minors as there are position players total in the minors.
You say Adams can refine his game then why can’t LaHair, right and like you said “and yet his production mounts” If you want to use all these reason why Adams will make it why can’t other clubs players do the same thing, Or does that just work for guys under the Cardinals watch?
Are you really that dumb? LaHair is 28 and has a middlin’ minor league career. Adams is 22, just jumped 2 levels to AA and is mutilating the best minor league pitching.
You know what, you really are that dumb. I’m thru arguing with an ignoramus.
Nope I’m just playing the game by your rules, why didn’t he improve like you say Cards guys can and like you said “yet his production mounts”
Since when did the best minor league pitchers show up on those other 7 Texas League teams and since its there why are only 2 teams have ERA under 4.57? You do know the Texas league is a premier hitters league and Hammons field is one of the best in all the minors right?
Who was making those personal attacks again? I just LOL because that’s your M.O. talk out your but with never giving any stats or information to support your side other than you think it will happen, You Always take personal shots at the person you are talking with but also cry they are taking them at you.
Azru? Why are Mommy and Daddy yelling so much?
Az… does this type of irrational irritating lame behavior possibly constitute a ban from the site???
Hugecardsfan shouldn’t be banned.
I took the weekend off or I would have stepped in before it escalated. I’ll address it with both individuals via e-mail.