Comments on: Shelby Miller – Drinkin’ And Fightin’ http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Fri, 17 May 2013 00:09:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Brian B http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48853 Brian B Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:38:35 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48853 Wow, just read on Springfield news leader that the police department was called to find out if there was a report filed on Shelby. Guys, leave it alone. If there was I’m sure we would of all heard about it days ago. Don’t start opening a can of worms Shelby made a mistake, did something wrong and hopefully he will learn from it but don’t keep lingering on it. We are all human. As long as we learn from our mistakes and no one got hurt, let it go. The Cards already handled it and he got suspended. I’m sure the guy feels bad and said his apologies to his team. Let it go and move on.

]]> By: Hugecardsfan http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48812 Hugecardsfan Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:59:51 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48812 No problem.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48808 Aaron Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:21:57 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48808 Ah, I see. My mistake, then, and I apologise for inferring something that wasn’t there. I do know Schilling is very religious, though, and thought it might have begun sometime when he was working with Clemens.

In that case, I fully agree with your stance.

]]> By: cariocacardinal http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48800 cariocacardinal Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:11:22 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48800 The post said TLR had input in to the disciplinary decision and a lot of people are trying to make that out TLR was mentoring the poor soul. Quite a stretch if you ask me.

]]> By: Hugecardsfan http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48799 Hugecardsfan Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:06:51 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48799 finding religion is a common refrain which has nothing to do with faith:

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2011/01/finding-religio.php

]]> By: Doinit Salukistyle http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48762 Doinit Salukistyle Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:49:17 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48762 Completely disagree. It’s better he’s doing something to stop him from going down the route Tony went down with his dui. Under that logic, Choo would never be able to suspend someone for getting a dui if he became a manager. Vick could never suspend someone for having a dog fighting ring, and Big Ben….well, hide your daughters gentlemen.

]]> By: Anthony Polazzi http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48750 Anthony Polazzi Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:08:57 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48750 Actually he probably has more credibility because he knows how it can get out of control. Drinking is not an issue unless it gets out of control. I am sure that LaRussa, Freese, etc. probably have a better feel for where that line is than anyone having crossed it at one point themselves.

]]> By: buchek's bat http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48728 buchek's bat Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:20:09 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48728 I dunno. I don’t think this is some sort of colossal Greco-Roman tragedy play or anything. If someone wants to infer social relativism, cultural relativism, God, death, taxes, the pill, the bomb, and the demise of the West, that’s their opinion and they’re entitled to it. Simply, they needed to get the kid’s attention. Hopefully the suspension did.

I think it’s worthwhile to consider, though, in light of this organization’s recent history with alcohol-related incidents, that they needed to intervene quickly and effectively. If that included LaRussa, then I’d say whatever it takes to get the message to the kid. LaRussa could explain to the young man that “Asleep at the Wheel” is best left to being the moniker for a Texas swing band, and not driving protocol for the right of way rules at an intersection..

Seems to me, one effective learning tool for S Miller would be to let him read the accident report from J Hancock’s fatal accident, maybe a photo of the car after law enforcement’s response at the scene. Tell him, “Look kid, you’ve got a great fastball, but your not immortal. Not yet, anyway. Now, go work on your secondary pitches.” Play ball.

]]> By: azruavatar http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48727 azruavatar Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:07:29 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48727 The issue with TLR isn’t a justification for Miller’s actions. The problem I have with that scenario is that it is a credibility issue for TLR. It doesn’t excuse Miller but it does cloud LaRussa’s credibility to have input on the topic.

]]> By: Forsch31 http://www.futureredbirds.net/2011/08/17/shelby-miller-drinkin%e2%80%99-and-fightin%e2%80%99/comment-page-1/#comment-48723 Forsch31 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:42:19 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=8109#comment-48723 Two problems with not wanting LaRussa being involved in Miller’s suspension. First, the organization has taken steps the last couple of seasons to improve the communication and input of the major league staff with the development system. I would think that a disciplinary issue with the organization’s top prospect would, and should, fall under that category. Second, after the Freese issue, I would hazard a guess that the organization would want to approach matters like this more seriously than they have done in the past. Considering how LaRussa and the coaching staff wound up dealing with Freese’s own alcoholic issues, and apparently dealing with it successfully, I wouldn’t be surprised if the organization asked for his input on dealing with its top prospect.

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