There farm system was a near perfect 6-1 on a night when Batavia played a double header. There are a lot of good details coming your way.

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Nashville 5 @ Memphis 7

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Springfield 3 @ Tulsa 0

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  • Shelby Miller was as dominant as you could hope for, this is the pitcher the Cardinals want to see in the 2013 or 2014 post season: 8.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB and 9 K
  • Jordan Swagerty pitched a perfect inning for the save

 

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St. Lucie 0 @ Palm Beach 2

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Clinton 1 @ Quad Cities 4

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Batavia 4 @ Auburn 2 (Game 1)

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  • Ryan Sherriff was decent: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 0 BB and 2 K 
  • Danny Miranda went 1.1 perfect innings for the save, they included 2 K 

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Batavia 1 @ Auburn 2 (Game 2)

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Danville 1 @ Johnson City 10

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40 Responses to “Daily Farm Report 9/2/2011”
  1. tom s. says:

    why are matt carpenter, tony cruz, tyler greene, and adron chambers playing in AAA on sept. 2, while shane robinson is with the ML club?

    • Anthony Polazzi says:

      Because they want these guys to play every day and the ML club isn’t ready to give up on the season yet and let these guys play. I expect that all of them (maybe except for Chambers) will be brought up as soon as the Memphis season is over.

      • pitch and hit says:

        Chambers is on the 40 man, he’s played some good baseball he deserves to be called up.

      • SLCard says:

        Why wouldn’t Chambers get a callup, other than stupidity of the front office. He has played very well this year, and has certainly earned it. Especially telling, IMO, is the fact that he overcame a rough start. A mediocre April became an atrocious May, yet he has rebounded nicely to an overall line of .281/.372/.419 (OPS .791). If my math is correct, his avg since May is .324. Sounds like a pretty darn good call up candidate to me. I know that I am probably higher on Chambers than most, but I find too many that seemingly disregard him (not saying you necessarily were) and I am not really sure why. Classic case of a guy who has earned his way up the ladder rather than being promoted due to his status as a top prospect (ala DJ, who I am also a big fan of, just wish he would put it all together).

        • pitch and hit says:

          I agree with you.

          While I don’t agree with necessarily flooding the ML roster at this time of year, why protect him if you have no intentions of calling him up, especially since post season may be a lost cause. Everyone else has been called up one time or another this season, why not Adron?

    • bc says:

      Why is Corey Patterson on the team? Why Ryan Theriot? It’s best for one’s sanity just not to ask such questions.

      • Hugecardsfan says:

        It’s a great question but won’t be answered to your satisfaction. With the 40 man roster available they can sit on the bench and watch from hereon out…but Tony won’t proffer the indignity to release them.

    • Mrs. TLR says:

      Its not rocket science.

      Shane Robinson is a right swinging CF, who can be paired with Jon Jay in a platoon. Robinson has a solid OPS for CF.

      We have no playing time for Chambers, since Jay swings left. Chambers can spend 2012 at Memphis, work on improving his game.

      • bc says:

        You mean just like we had no playing time for Jon Jay when Colby was the starting CF and they were both left-handed? It’s not rocket science.

        • Mrs. TLR says:

          Right now we have Allen Craig and Corey Patterson in the roles of backup OFs. Craig is best at 1B, but TLR has had to use him in CF, of all places, to provide a platoon with Jay.

          Shane Robinson is an actual CF, who swings right. His minor league career has been slowed by a few injuries. He lost a half season at Palm Beach to a foot injury. This year he got run over by Brown and had a broken bone. When healthy, Robinson can get on base. He has done well at Memphis. The Cards can use him. Shane is the new So.

        • Mrs. TLR says:

          When Jay spent a season at Memphis in 2009, he had an OPS of 730. This season Shane Robinson is 100 points higher, so he is ready. If a guy does a good job at Memphis and there is a role on the ML roster, he can get promoted. This explains why Robinson is in the majors.

          • azruavatar says:

            This is some all around terrible logic. TLR hardly HAD to use Craig in CF. They’d gone the whole season without a platoon there and suddenly it is necessary? Hardly.

            Shane Robinson’s minor league career has also been slowed by being a terrible hitter. He’s had some injuries but he’s swung an anemic bat his entire career.

            Hitting better than Jay in 2009 (who wasn’t far removed from his own shoulder injury) is questionable evidence that Robinson is ready.

            There may be valid reasons for Robinson’s callup but you haven’t really hit on any of them.

          • Franklin says:

            What am I missing?

            The 2009 numbers I see for Shane have him at a .657 OPS with a .306 OBP.

          • SLCard says:

            Using your logic Chambers should already have been promoted, he is sitting at .791 OPS, which while not as high as Sugar Shane, is better than your example of Jay in 09. Also, when you look at their careers as a whole throughout the minors there is one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb. Sugar Shane got a HUGE bump playing in the hitter friendly Texas League, whereas Adron’s numbers are very nearly identical playing at Memphis as they were at Springfield. One of the rarities in the Cardinals farm system in that he didn’t see that big bump in Springfield.

            OVERALL AA AAA
            Shane- .277/.337/.390 .367/.416/.535 .253/.313/.368
            Adron- .273/.362/.392 .282/.376/.417 .282/.375/.411

            So overall, you have two guys with very similar career minor league numbers, but one of them taking full advantage of a league that is well known to give a huge bump to hitters numbers. The other guy has not only consistently gotten better as he progressed through the minors (keep in mind Adron was a football player first and foremost, much like Tyrell Jenkins, although I don’t even know if Adron played baseball in HS), BUT his numbers took only a small bump playing in Springfield, and he has held consistent since being promoted to Memphis. Also, Adron is a true CF just like Shane.

            You are, however, entirely correct that Shane has the edge in right handedness. As for your earlier assertion that Adron can spend 2012 in Memphis, are you already assuming the Cards will resign Corey Patterson as the left handed OF bench option for next season? Shane can’t very well compete with Adron’s left handedness anymore than Adron can compete with Shane’s right handedness.

            To be clear, I like Shane Robinson, and am perfectly happy to see the Cards give him another shot in the majors this September. I am not, however, convinced he is a better all around option than Adron, and if you still aren’t clear why, reread my entire post with an emphasis on the stark difference between the two when considering the Springfield bump in offense.

  2. Lou Schuler says:

    JC won its semifinal series last night, and goes on to the best-of-3 finals against Bluefield. JC gets the opening game at home and then plays the next 2 on the road. I don’t know how the rotation sets up, but if it goes 3 games Jenkins should get one more start this year.

    Also:

    Batavia has been a tough club to follow this year. They aren’t particularly good (36-37), and there aren’t really any prospects who jump out. Juan Castillo has hit well, and at 21 he’s age-appropriate for the NYPL. OTOH, he’s repeating the league, and his .734 OPS at 3 levels this season is the lowest of his 5 years in the org.

    Seth Maness looked good as a starter before the Cards sent him affiliate-hopping to PB and QC and who knows where else.

    However, one guy is quietly putting together an outstanding season: Danny Miranda, the lefty closer from Miami, has given up just 19 hits and 7 BB in 29.2 IP, with 27 K. He’s given up 8 ER for a 2.43 ERA, but none on homers. He also gets almost 2 groundouts for every flyout.

    Could be good value for an 8th-round pick.

    • azruavatar says:

      Seems like Batavia is always kind of terrible. It never gets any of the good HS players (Johnson City) or the good college players (QC) so it ends up with a hodgepodge of lower round draft picks and Latin players who aren’t good enough for full season ball.

  3. bc says:

    Oscar Taveras made BA’s hot sheet last week, and several people had questions about him in the chat. Kolten Wong also made the list (Zack Cox made the list last week). Interestingly, the BA writer said Taveras would not be a top 20 prospect, and that Taveras was close to but behind prospects like Eddie Rosario and Cheslor Cuthbert.
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2011/2612289.html

    • cariocacardinal says:

      My God, the idiot said Oscar was age appropriate and not young for the league.

    • BigJawnMize says:

      Cooper is not watching enough actual baseball. The Cuthbert comment is really annoying, trust me i saw Cuthbert play a lot and his bat isnt in the same league as Taveras. Not that I wouldnt welcome Cuthbert on the Bandits but he is going to need another year in low-A where Taveras is moving up.

      Also if I remember right Taveras was young for the league, he just turned 19 a 6 weeks ago.

  4. Andrew says:

    Reggie Williams is turning it on late in the year in Batavia. I disagree by those who say that Castillo isn’t an exciting prospect. He’s been at 3 levels this year so his OPS is based on siginficant time in Quad Cities and Palm Beach. He played well early and was rewarded with a promotion to Palm Beach but was sent to detention for an on field incident. He wasn’t even catching full time in Batavia after the incident. Talent and performance wise he shouldn’t be at Batavia now but I agree with the organization for what they did.

    • cariocacardinal says:

      Williams could be exciting …..if he didn’t strike out in over 1/3 of his AB’s (for the second straight season)

      • Andrew says:

        Didn’t he miss alot of the beginning of this year with a broken hamate bone. Breaking a hand or wrist in Spring Training usually throws off the whole year. Didn’t B. Ryan break his wrist about a month before Spring Training in 10 and he never recovered from that.

  5. Hugecardsfan says:

    Any idea why Taveras has been sitting out the last 2 nights?

  6. Bob says:

    Taveras has just missed one game, I think. Anyway, when it comes to O.T., the entire BA staff apparently has their heads up their….

    Funny, too, how in the Hot Sheet, BA listed Taveras and fellow outfield prospect Gary Brown as the same age—when Brown is nearly *four* years older. The Rosario comments were kinda humorous, too. Eddie R. is nine months older than Taveras, playing in rookieball, has worse BB/K/AB ratios, and despite his extremely high HR total, is posting an OPS no more above his league than Taveras.

    They’re not truly comparable. Rosario = very good prospect, a top 50 type. Taveras = super-elite, top 10 type.

  7. VolsnCards5 says:

    So uhhh Shelby?

  8. VolsnCards5 says:

    Was anyone at the Springfield game? That is an absolutely dominant performance from our 20 year old top prospect

    • Hugecardsfan says:

      He does pretty well when he’s sober and doesn’t have bruised knuckles.

      • Pierce says:

        I was only able to watch 2 innings of the game last night (sixth and seventh), but Shelby was holding his velocity into the later innings. He was still hitting 93-96 and and was getting plenty of batters to chace on his curveball. I only saw him throw 1 changeup, so I’m not sure how much he utilzed that pitch last night. However, if last night is any indication, he’s getting a much better feel for his secondary pitches.

    • hurricane jake says:

      I was at the game, Shelby was in control of the game as soon as he stepped on the mound. FB was sitting 93-94, he hit 97 once. Threw two great curveballs in the 1st; was throwing throwing changeup and curve for strikes or for outs. Overall extremly impressed by his stuff and how he carried himself through the game. He looked like the top pitching prospect that he is. It was a great way for him to finish off the year

  9. sadsushi says:

    outstanding start from shelby..watched the game on milb.tv..really located his fastball well and mixed in some offspeed pitches a little bit..good finish for the likely minor league pitcher of the year for the cards

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