Comments on: Minor League Pitching Leaders

By: Dan from FL

Dan from FL — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:34:39 +0000

I did not consider Lynn or sanchez ethier. I did think of Cleto and Rosenthal. only room for ten. I wanted to put a wild card player I think can be special Breyvic Valera middle infielder who hit .397 also hit.318 in the playoffs fo JC playing most of the year at 18 yrs old. also Roberto De La Cruz OPS of .841 dispite OPB of .299 at 19yrs old

By: Jim1956

Jim1956 — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 10:37:55 +0000

I think the best part of all this is the transition to Double A of Miller, Cox, Swagerty and Jackson. They all handled the jump extremely well and add to it that they reached AA before they were expected to. I guess I should add Adams to that list. And Wong did fantastic as most picks usuaslly start at Rookie levels. Lot to be excited about!

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:40:59 +0000

I don’t think Lynn will be spending any time in the Minors either.

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:59:21 +0000

That isn’t really the point though, the point is whether 28 innings is enough major league experience to move someone from a possibility or expectation to a known quantity. If a player pitched 28 innings in the month of September he would be a rookie next year and considered a prospect but because he did it earlier in the year he is now a know quantity. I don’t get the logic.

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:31:06 +0000

I agree in principle, for sure—but Sanchez, for instance, doesn’t seem likely to spend any more time in the minors…so I no longer think of him as a part of the farm system.

No right or wrong answer, of course. ;)

By: Enigma

Enigma — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:10:48 +0000

With Sanchez and Lynn. . .

1. Miller-A
2. Taveras-A
3. Martinez-A-
4. Sanchez B+
5. Jenkins B
6. Wong-B
7. Lynn-B
8. Cox-B
9. Swagerty-B-
10. Adams-B-

Without I’d go:
1. Miller
2. Taveras
3. Martinez
4. Jenkins
5. Wong
6. Cox
7. Swagerty
8. Adams
9. Carpenter B-
10. Garcia B-

Next tier: Rosenthal, Jackson, Cleto, Whiting, Gast, Kelly, Butler, Wright.

If only 5 or 6 of these guys reach their potential and a couple others become contributors. . . it’s awesome, just awesome, to think about the possibilities for the next few years.

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:41:40 +0000

To me the BA standard 50IP or 134 AB’s makes much more sense for prospects than the MLB rookie criteria that takes into account time on the major league roster. To me, it is all about giving a player enough opportunity to make some determination what kind of major leaguer he will be. Until he gets that opportunity he is still a prospect. You can’t make any determination if a guy comes up and sits on the bench or is injured

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:18:01 +0000

good for you, but BA is the std (like it or not).

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:15:38 +0000

Pretty sure those were “stadium guns”; however, in comparison, when Martinez was in QC, I was told he regiestered 99 several times and hit 100 a few – point being that Rosenthal is only 1-2 mph behind what most consider the hottest arm in the Organization. Rosenthal actually dialed it back some in the middle of the season trying to find the right velocity to get him deep into games. So, there was a lot of learning and experimentation going on with him – how hard to throw the “new” curve, etc. It all adds up as to why it is hard to interpret minor league stats……

By: easy

easy — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 14:52:23 +0000

With Sanchez and Lynn…
1. Miller-A
2. Taveras-A
3. Martinez-A
4. Sanchez-A
5. Wong-B+
6. Jenkins-B+
7. Cox-B
8. Adams-B
9. Lynn-B
10.Swagerty-B
Carpenter, Jackson, Cleto and Rosenthal come next. Then it gets even more interesting. But we’re ahead of ourselves here.