Comments on: Future Redbirds 2012 Top 20: #10-#6

By: JC

JC — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:20:58 +0000

Honestly its a breathe of fresh air to see arguments of who are 5th vs 6th/7th prospects are. In so many years past we haven’t had this much talent to debate of our prospects this far down the list. In fact the list that goes into the teens is very interesting and just shows we have a nice combination of depth and upside in the system. As a prospect nerd I am stoked!

By: JC

JC — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:17:40 +0000

See my posted a few above here. Most systems don’t have high upside C unless they get Top of the 1st Rd picks or traded for one. Its just not an easy position to get someone later in the draft that has extreme upside and will definitely stick at C.

By: JC

JC — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:14:53 +0000

To be fair its really hard to have really high upside C’s in the minors. Many HS catchers that are drafted end up not sticking and high end college C’s go early in the draft where we rarely to never draft. Its similar to SS…very hard without having a Top 10 pick to get these guys. Obviously there are always those diamonds in the rough so its always possible.

By: bc

bc — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:56:40 +0000

Yes, still right, and still irrelevant to my original point.

By: David

David — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:39:49 +0000

so……when it comes down to where they both played in their first full season……………….they both started that first full year at PB and finished at Springfield…………right???

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:38:56 +0000

Carp also has 2 extra years of college experience (though one was basically an injury year)

By: bc

bc — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:51:32 +0000

I didn’t include Cox’s 15 or so PAs in the GCL or Carp’s 30 or so PAs at Batavia. But I would not say they started in the same place, at least experience-wise, in their first full year. Carp had almost 300 PAs in BAT, QC and PB in his first partial year (the vast majority in QC and PB).

By: david

david — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:12:40 +0000

I think there is a little mix up in the Cox/Carpenter discussion. Carpenter actually signed early enough to play the year he was drafted and wend to Batavia, QC, and PB that year in 2009. In his first full season in 2010 he was at PB to start and then finished the majority of the season at Springfield. Cox signed late in 2010 when he was drafted and played a few games in the GCL and then went to the AFL. He started his first full season in PB and then went up to Springfield in 2011. So, they both were basically in the same spot during their first full season.

By: ebo

ebo — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:35:45 +0000

Also, to be fair I believe the problem was noted and the changes recommended in 2010 while he was still in AAA.

By: jjray

jjray — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:11:57 +0000

Perhaps the Texas league will bring Stock’s bat to life. If Stock is going to try and reestablish himself as a prospect, 2012 is the time.