Comments on: Daily Farm Report – 3/24/12

By: Tackle Box

Tackle Box — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:33:26 +0000

I know we all love Garcia, but I don’t think he really belongs in this conversation. In a perfect world (rotation?), he’s really a number 3. He’s got great stuff, but I just don’t think he has the makeup of the #1 guy. If he’s your 1 or 2, I feel as if someone above him must have gotten hurt.

But, he is a hell of a 3. I just wouldn’t feel comfortable with him starting opening day.

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:34:11 +0000

This is exactly right. The Cards’ system is flush with very talented pitching, and who is 1-5 doesn’t matter. We are going to know the true rankings inside of a couple of years. But from where I sit, the prospect success rate looks like it may be abnormally high.

By: Hugecardsfan

Hugecardsfan — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:47:07 +0000

Frankly, I’m not concerned whether Rosie or Martinez is the higher prospect right now. These guys are doing what they’re supposed to do to reach the majors. Rosie’s stats last year could have been much more overwhelming had he used his curve and CU less often. He is a force to be reckoned with right now. I watched him pitch 3 times in ST and not very many were adjusting well to 99, 83, 100, 79, 93. The pitches were all near the zone and the FB’s ripping the glove. I saw at least 7 pitches hit 100 in a 2 inning outing. One hit, one K and some balls up in the air but none hit particularly hard. Most hit center or opposite field. He went thru Brent Hayes, Scott Cousins, Jose Reyes, Emilio Bonifacio, Hanley Ramirez, Gabby Sanchez and Infante. If he’s got control and good movement on that cutter all bets are off for who’s gonna be the most productive starter….regardless how they’re rated as prospects.

I didn’t see Martinez pitch to hitters but am sure looking forward to seeing his mechanics on track this summer. We all know his stuff is electric and want him effective sooner rather than later. I do think Rosie will move up faster than Martinez but it doesn’t necessarily follow that their prospect status will crossover. Martinez is, after all, 16 months younger.

Jenkins may be the baby but he sure turned some heads this spring. His mature approach and pro demeanor got rave reviews and I can’t even imagine what he’s gonna look like in 2 years.

Not gonna argue about their position on any list. What’s exciting is that they’re bunched together talent wise and stair stepping their development to the Bigs. Gonna be some exciting times the next few years.

By: Cards Fan in Chitown #2

Cards Fan in Chitown #2 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:48:22 +0000

Rosenthal reminds me so much of Carp…… If he is the opening day starter in 15 or 16 and/or beyond (yes even over Waino and Miller and Martinez and Jenkins and Garcia and…….) it would not surprise me one bit.

By: mizzcards

mizzcards — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:45:51 +0000

Was watching an Orioles game the other day and Stuart Pomeranz looked very good. His FB was hitting in the range of 92 to 95 with some nice off speed stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes the Orioles out of Spring Training. The guy is still only 27 and doesn’t turn 28 until December. It is looking like the guy has made it past the shoulder problems he had 4 or 5 years ago and still has a chance of making the ml’s. Just to bad it wasn’t with the Cardinals.

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=456421#gameType=%27S%27

By: ThomasJ

ThomasJ — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:52:10 +0000

Does anyone else think its nothing but bad news going forward for David Kopp? I feel bad for the fella with another injury and it looks like this could by the last go around for him…. Your thoughts?

By: illinoiscardinalfan

illinoiscardinalfan — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:58:35 +0000

To me the plus factor Rosenthal has over Martinez is his frame. Rosenthal appears to have a better frame to become a major league starter than Martinez has. Because there are so many questions about Martinez being able to be a starter in the majors because of his size, I would be inclined to move Rosenthal ahead of him sooner rather than later.

By: VolsnCards5

VolsnCards5 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:47:05 +0000

I felt at the end of last year that Rosie would end up being a more valuable pro…still think c-Mart is a reliever long term

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:24:38 +0000

He completely lost his delievery and release point at the end of last year. Martinez was working with him to correct it not sure if it was corrected and he was just learning a new delievry at the end of last year or what.

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:34:49 +0000

As Andrew points out below, I think the feeling is he has some maturing to do mentally. JMO, but I don’t think it is a tools issue keeping him out of AAA. AA is a big jump, but I don’t anticipate his bat going silent any time soon! But I do think the shuttle to MLB camp is a way of incentivizing him to follow the Cardinal Way.