My Sunday post at Viva el Birdos is an interview with Kevin Goldstein. We talk about prospects and world politics.
Well, we talk about one of those two.
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I thought az’ questions about Rosenthal Kevin keyed on Goldstein’s limited expectations rather well. “You saw him in QC?” I think Mr Rosenthal is blossoming before our very eyes and will be more accomplished than a #4.
I do agree with az that reading about the Cardinal prospects is rather bland compared to the nuggets regarding the other 29 teams…..perhaps for different reasons. We get opinions written from folks who’ve seen these players fewer times than we have. Acknowledging that they have access to scouts, it begs the question whether the right questions are asked or to the right people.
Goldstein continued to respond to az’ questions with a question… I doubt he’d developed an informed opinion on a player like Whiting. Instead his opinion was on players with like skill sets to Whiting. Clearly that gives us little to build on…particularly since his response formulated around the manner of the question.
It will be interesting to see if his educated opinion on Rosenthal will have changed after this season in AA.
It’s my guess that it will…
When I heard Goldstein say Rosenthal could possibly develop into a #4, I realized that often guys like Goldstein are operating with limited information. No way these guys can credibly follow 30 Systems, so about all they are going to really know is the top 3 or 4 guys.
I’m thinking it won’t be long before he figures out that Rosenthal may belong in the top 3 or 4 guys.
As far as the minors are concerned, AA houses many top prospects. If Rosie does what he is capable of, he won’t have any problem getting Goldstein’s attention. I’ve said before, and I will say it one more time, prospects at the Low A level and drafted in the 21st round have a built in bias they have to overcome with guys like Goldstein, and I actually understand that. But when he wrote the possible #4, I pretty much laughed. Rosenthal may end up a #4, but that isn’t where his ceiling is.
Goldstein’s got a tough job. No argument. But, his pronouncement that Rosie is a #4 candidate and that we should be happy about that stems from “I saw him once and this is what he was”…
That Goldstein recognizes him as a prospect is fine. We’ve all known that for the better part of two years. That Goldstein ruefully pronounced such a severe limitation exposes the soft underbelly of “scouting.com”…. I’m betting that Lilliquist would have a good chuckle at Goldstein’s expense after that prediction.
I really believe that only injuries could make Goldstein look smart about this. Here’s hoping for good health.
Since we are talking about Rosenthal. Does anyone think he can match Miller’s stats in Springfield last year?
Anybody’s guess how a whole season would go, but I think Rosenthal will dominate games at times. I also think that the guy will take full advantage of the attention and help he’s getting. He can smell the majors from here and wants it badly.
In a sense, I think he’ll come out of this more prepared than last year’s Shelby to move on. He’s paid the price developing his repetoire in Quad Cities. This year he spends developing his secondaries and refining the mix.
The scouts are in for a rude awakening.
You may be correct. I like your presentation – great closing!
Could he? Yes…will he? It will be close bit I don’t think so
That is a tough question. I think he will. His confidence is up there now. He will be receiving the best treatments, etc. (the trainer in QC left something be desired). I don’t expect Rosie to be as big a strike-out machine as Miller, but he could easily match Miller’s HR allowed and ERA, etc. – he will have better defenders to field the ground balls, balls in the dirt, etc. He pitched against some real MLB talent this Spring and did well – and while it was ST, it was a pressure situation for him and he came through it quite well.
What I’m interested in is the stat differntial for Miller between last year and this year. He has gotten the message to throw a better mix of pitches now. If he matches last year’s stats with a better mix, then he will most definitely be the ace we expect him to be.
The one thing that I love about Rosie is his desire to be great. DG’s interview with him at the PD shed great light into Rosie’s drive and want to. He understands that he needs to continue to refine his offspeed pitches and command to take the next step. What struck me was his dedication to note taking, mental preparation and acknowledgement of his leadership role. If he makes the proper adjustments and maintains a high confidence level, he could really take off.
I will second T-Bird as well. The kid is all “growed” up – brings a tear to my eye….
My son who played summer ball with Rosie back when summed it up this way….best thing that may have happened to Trevor was getting drafted in the 21st round. We all knew his talent was much better than that and Trevor did too. So he got that chip firmly attached to his shoulder, and poked his nose to the grindstone. As to getting dissed by guys like Goldstein, his response is that he doesn’t give a flip what they think. The only opinions that matter to him are his coaches and his Organization…..that’s two feet firmly affixed to the ground folks.
I second T-Bird..
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