Comments on: Quick Predictions

By: wileyvet

wileyvet — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 03:55:42 +0000

Thank you Tackle Box, YOU are correct, Hunt was a rule 5 draft. I’m surprised Grunt didn’t know that. Anyway, just look at Hunt’s previous minor league numbers and then answer the question. The topic was who we thought were risers and fallers; I picked Cleto as one of mine Grunt, just like Jeff. You can summit your picks completely opposite of mine if you choose if that’s your opinion. Makes no difference to me. Some people will agree or disagree with my selections. It’s up to them. TB and I both agree on De La Cruz. Jeff and I agree on Cleto, disagree on Ryan Jackson. Grunt and I agree on “Rosie” and are totally opposite on Carlos Martinez.

By: Scadder21

Scadder21 — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:17:30 +0000

It’s not zero sum, had Hunt not been picked up someone else would have been and that effort would be going to the other person. It’s not like some pitchers aren’t getting instruction because others are.

By: Gruntosaurus

Gruntosaurus — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:35:19 +0000

Almost nothing. Just a little money, and maybe more importantly, effort that could have been spent on someone else. I thought this was a good pickup, even if he completely bombs out. Yet, if ANYTHING is expended on him and he bombs out, it was a gamble — even if a very low-stakes one.

By: Zach

Zach — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:25:46 +0000

Yeah, that’s a good one. I believe he was thought to be pretty polished out of college and he is the sort of guy who could jump through the system

By: Tackle Box

Tackle Box — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:20:50 +0000

I don’t see how acquiring Hunt (I thought it was rule 5, but am probably wrong) could be classified a “gamble” at all. “Gamble” implies that if he fails, we loose out on something. What could the cardinals lose?

By: Gruntosaurus

Gruntosaurus — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:07:14 +0000

The Cardinals didn’t draft Hunt. He was picked up on a waiver claim or free agency after being drafted by Minnesota, then released because of his inability to throw strikes. If that can be fixed, he still has a power arm. If. Not the worst gamble a system with demonstrated success in developing pitchers could take, and the price was right, but still a gamble.

I don’t hold Cleto’s abominable major-league debut against him. Kid was as nervous out there as a chicken on a blind date with Colonel Sanders. More seasoning is obviously required, but the problem wasn’t physical.

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:12:56 +0000

Well done illustration. All we can do is hope CMart is the exception and not the rule.

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:05:37 +0000

I agree with the Rosie has already risen thought. I’m not sure he would be in the rotation by the end of 2013, but letting him start 2013 in Memphis as a starter, then a bullpen gig with STL toward the end of that year is very possible and joining the 2014 rotation right on time. And depending on how he performs in his first ten starts or so this season, I’m not even sure it would be that aggressive….he would be 23 in 2013 and obviouisly 24 in 2014.

By: Lou Schuler

Lou Schuler — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 11:15:26 +0000

One guy I think can move fast: Danny Miranda, the lefty reliever from Miami.

(I know I’m writing this after he started the season w. 2 solid innings for QC, but I didn’t see this thread until now!)

He was very good for Batavia last year — in 30.2 IP, he gave up just 21 hits and 7 BB, w. 27 K — but was barely mentioned in all our offseason discussions.

Since we’re always short of lefties coming out of the bullpen, he seems like a guy who’s in the right organization for his skill set.

By: Scadder21

Scadder21 — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:17:39 +0000

Any specific reasons for the guys you think are fallers?

Saw De La Cruz today, guys an absolute butcher at 1st. I would rather him be at 3rd until he can catch a ball as a way to minimize the number of plays he’s involved with per game.