Comments on: Yum, Sandwich Rounds

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 12 May 2012 01:23:37 +0000

And I’m mainly a BPA guy in lower rounds when people have fallen due to signability.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 12 May 2012 00:43:48 +0000

Yea because we need to get rid of Freese ASAP. Obviously if you have an All-Star who is signed for 5 days you don’t want to draft a guy that will be in the Bigs in a year that plays the same position unless it’s pitcher.

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Fri, 11 May 2012 23:09:09 +0000

Maybe if we keep drafting college 3B we’ll eventually either get it right or get lucky! :)

By: cariocacardinal

cariocacardinal — Fri, 11 May 2012 23:06:58 +0000

So the guy who has in the past been a vocal advocate for “best available player” is now worried about who might be blocking whom?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:16 +0000

Your right a balance is the best way. The Cardinals can’t and wont draft just HS players. Financially it’s not possible there have to be some easy signs in order for them to try to go overslot with some.

By: zuke354

zuke354 — Fri, 11 May 2012 21:22:40 +0000

I disagree.

There are still plenty of Jon Jay, lance Lynns and wongs in the range the cards pick. The problem is, people don’t see the value in #3 starters and cotact hiters on draft day. In fact, people think that even drafting a Jon Jay or Lance Lynn is a failure.

Balance is actually the best approach. This year the cards do have the luxury of more picks, but I would not put it all on high risk high schoolers.

Also, the point i keep making is that the cards also have been one of the best teams at identifing, drafting and developing that college player. Its a strength of the system. I think they should also feed that strength.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 11 May 2012 20:17:50 +0000

We aren’t talking about passing on a guy who we think is best. We are talking about passing on a safe player i.e. already maximized his talent without much room to grow if they are blocked at the MLB level. Usually the best talent is at the HS level. Those college players who are as talented as the HS guys are usually picked long before the Cardinals get to choose.

By: zuke354

zuke354 — Fri, 11 May 2012 19:49:31 +0000

Why are you assuming they are less talanted? High ceiling doesn’t necesarrily represent talent, but rather growth room.

All I am saying is you don’t pass on a guy you think is best because you have a player at the major league level.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 11 May 2012 17:32:37 +0000

Callis’s Mock is horrible for so many reasons. Including the fact that if this is true in the last 5 year’s we drafted 4 college thirdbasemen, 3 with a good hit tool and questionable power. Add to the fact that we already have Zach Cox blocked by Freese why would we draft 2 fast moving 3rd basemen to get clogged in the system.

Also Shaffer won’t fall to us. Oakland won’t draft a HS pitcher. It’s just a bad mock outside of the Top 5 picks.

By: Lou Schuler

Lou Schuler — Fri, 11 May 2012 15:14:38 +0000

FWIW, Jim Callis’ first mock at BA has the Cards taking Richie Shaffer (Clemson 3B) at 19 and Stephen Piscotty (Stanford 3B/OF) at 23.

Over at minorleagueball.com, Matt Garrioch gives Piscotty a floor of 40 (on the 20-80 scouting scale) and a ceiling of 60. He gives Shaffer a slightly higher floor — 45 — and the same ceiling.

I think 40 would be a replacement-type player, and 60 would be an above-average MLB regular.