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	<title>Comments on: Daily Farm Report &#8211; 6/10/12</title>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/06/11/daily-farm-report-6112-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the Hilo Hammer has played 102 professional games so far, or roughly 2/3 of a full season. He&#039;s been age-appropriate for half those games, and young for his level during the other half. 

So let&#039;s pro-rate his numbers out to a full season:

.320 average, 31 doubles, 9 triples, and 16 longballs. That&#039;s actually pretty good power for a keystoner. And speed? He prorates to nearly 30 steals, too (he&#039;s 18 for his last 22).

I feel like (assuming average to slightly above-avg. glovework), over his prime 5-7 seasons, Wong&#039;s floor is in the 2.5-3 WAR range, and his upside is more like 5-6 WAR. 

Simply put, I look at K.W. and see a lefty-swinging Pedroia as the optimistic outcome...and Kolten&#039;s combination of excellent plate discipline and baseball rat work ethic gives him a real good chance of reaching that potential.

Top of my head, I&#039;d take 3 or 4 pitchers before him, plus Taveras, Profar, Machado, Lindor, Myers, and perhaps Singleton, Rizzo, Sano, Hanson, Correa, and Grandal. I could be forgetting a guy or two, of course. For me, Wong has passed guys like Arenado, Brett Jackson, Gary Brown, T. D&#039;arnaud, and several pitchers -- including Shelby &amp; Carlos, unfortunately. :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Hilo Hammer has played 102 professional games so far, or roughly 2/3 of a full season. He&#8217;s been age-appropriate for half those games, and young for his level during the other half. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s pro-rate his numbers out to a full season:</p>
<p>.320 average, 31 doubles, 9 triples, and 16 longballs. That&#8217;s actually pretty good power for a keystoner. And speed? He prorates to nearly 30 steals, too (he&#8217;s 18 for his last 22).</p>
<p>I feel like (assuming average to slightly above-avg. glovework), over his prime 5-7 seasons, Wong&#8217;s floor is in the 2.5-3 WAR range, and his upside is more like 5-6 WAR. </p>
<p>Simply put, I look at K.W. and see a lefty-swinging Pedroia as the optimistic outcome&#8230;and Kolten&#8217;s combination of excellent plate discipline and baseball rat work ethic gives him a real good chance of reaching that potential.</p>
<p>Top of my head, I&#8217;d take 3 or 4 pitchers before him, plus Taveras, Profar, Machado, Lindor, Myers, and perhaps Singleton, Rizzo, Sano, Hanson, Correa, and Grandal. I could be forgetting a guy or two, of course. For me, Wong has passed guys like Arenado, Brett Jackson, Gary Brown, T. D&#8217;arnaud, and several pitchers &#8212; including Shelby &amp; Carlos, unfortunately. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wong overall top 10-15 seems ridiculously bullish for a guy with little power and speed, I&#039;d have thought.  I assume he&#039;s got a good chance to be a 3-4 WAR 2B but I don&#039;t see him as a potential star.  Got to be at least 30 guys I&#039;d rather have than Wong, even though I really like the look of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wong overall top 10-15 seems ridiculously bullish for a guy with little power and speed, I&#8217;d have thought.  I assume he&#8217;s got a good chance to be a 3-4 WAR 2B but I don&#8217;t see him as a potential star.  Got to be at least 30 guys I&#8217;d rather have than Wong, even though I really like the look of him.</p>
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		<title>By: Felonius_Monk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felonius_Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 11:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No love for Matt Adams?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No love for Matt Adams?</p>
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		<title>By: cariocacardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cariocacardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm......  substantial?  3rd in the APpy league in OPS and the only guy ahead of him who was younger is a top 50 prospect in all of baaseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;  substantial?  3rd in the APpy league in OPS and the only guy ahead of him who was younger is a top 50 prospect in all of baaseball.</p>
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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileyvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you, I couldn&#039;t believe we scored that many runs and lost 3 games.  I guess they&#039;re teaching the relievers in the minors to pitch like their major league counterparts.  

How about the season Ethan Cole is putting together and he gets no love from anyone.  Hopefully he gets a ticket to PB soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, I couldn&#8217;t believe we scored that many runs and lost 3 games.  I guess they&#8217;re teaching the relievers in the minors to pitch like their major league counterparts.  </p>
<p>How about the season Ethan Cole is putting together and he gets no love from anyone.  Hopefully he gets a ticket to PB soon.</p>
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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileyvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until Garcia produces in a substantial manner somehow he will continue to fly under the radar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until Garcia produces in a substantial manner somehow he will continue to fly under the radar.</p>
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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileyvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the real problem with O&#039;Neill is his size; 5&#039;9&quot; and 170 pounds or something like that as I recall.  He&#039;s strictly an Aaron Miles type upside.  A singles hitter, with no speed equals an okay bench player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real problem with O&#8217;Neill is his size; 5&#8217;9&#8243; and 170 pounds or something like that as I recall.  He&#8217;s strictly an Aaron Miles type upside.  A singles hitter, with no speed equals an okay bench player.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Scott Bailes said that Taveras and Wong were &quot;easily the most talented players in the Texas League,&quot; I would assume he meant &quot;on the Springfield roster.&quot;

Even with Wil Myers promoted to AAA, the league still has J. Profar J. Singleton, and N. Arenado, three terrific prospects -- Profar would currently be rated baseball&#039;s best prospect by many mavens. (I&#039;d have him right alongside Taveras, and distinctly above Wong, who&#039;s more of an overall top 10-15 type guy for me.)

I absolutely love that Bailes gave high marks to Wong and Taveras in terms of DEfense, as that&#039;s always a bit of a wildcard, when evaluating prospects.

If Valera looks good v. AA pitchers, I wonder if maybe they only &quot;demote&quot; him as far as Palm Beach? 

I&#039;m with you, Kyle, regarding Anthony Garcia. He&#039;s fanning a bit too much, but Anthony (who gunned down a runner yesterday) is hitting for solid average again this year, and fully *half* the hits are going for extra bases. If his glovework is average, he projects as a sturdy 3-4 WAR guy in his prime. High floor, medium ceiling, in other words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Scott Bailes said that Taveras and Wong were &#8220;easily the most talented players in the Texas League,&#8221; I would assume he meant &#8220;on the Springfield roster.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even with Wil Myers promoted to AAA, the league still has J. Profar J. Singleton, and N. Arenado, three terrific prospects &#8212; Profar would currently be rated baseball&#8217;s best prospect by many mavens. (I&#8217;d have him right alongside Taveras, and distinctly above Wong, who&#8217;s more of an overall top 10-15 type guy for me.)</p>
<p>I absolutely love that Bailes gave high marks to Wong and Taveras in terms of DEfense, as that&#8217;s always a bit of a wildcard, when evaluating prospects.</p>
<p>If Valera looks good v. AA pitchers, I wonder if maybe they only &#8220;demote&#8221; him as far as Palm Beach? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you, Kyle, regarding Anthony Garcia. He&#8217;s fanning a bit too much, but Anthony (who gunned down a runner yesterday) is hitting for solid average again this year, and fully *half* the hits are going for extra bases. If his glovework is average, he projects as a sturdy 3-4 WAR guy in his prime. High floor, medium ceiling, in other words.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of off topic...

Any news/updates on Mitch Harris?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of off topic&#8230;</p>
<p>Any news/updates on Mitch Harris?</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelly&#039;s performance yesterday was certainly encouraging. However, if his performance is maintained at the highest level I would think that he would stick long enough in STL to be deemed ineligible for top 100 prospect lists. At this point, he is probably sitting around 6 or 7.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly&#8217;s performance yesterday was certainly encouraging. However, if his performance is maintained at the highest level I would think that he would stick long enough in STL to be deemed ineligible for top 100 prospect lists. At this point, he is probably sitting around 6 or 7.</p>
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