Mike O’Neill was drafted out of USC as an outfielder in the 31st round of the 2010 draft but has yet to escape single-A. Perhaps that will change soon. At 24-years-old, he’s one of the older players in the Florida State League, and he was recently chosen to play in the FSL’s 2012 All-Star game where he went 0-for-3 with 2 walks, a strikeout, and run scored batting leadoff for the South. If you make it to the end of the post, I’ll reward you with some video.

Those of you who religiously check the Daily Farm Reports probably noticed that O’Neill can draw a walk (12.6% BB/PA). But have you noticed his ability to avoid strikeouts (4.9% K/PA)?

Out of all high-A (including Florida State League, Carolina League, and California League) players with at least 150 plate-appearances in 2012, none of them compare to Mike O’Neill, who strikes out only 5% of the time. This seems to be a habit of O’Neill’s rather than a statistical anomaly, at least according to this table created by Erik Manning in 2010. We can see that O’Neill had similar results at USC by walking more (11.5%) often than he struck out (6.2%).

If the Cardinals drafted him in 2010 for his impressive BB/K ratio, then he surely hasn’t disappointed them. O’Neill has never struck out more often than he’s walked in a professional season, though his rates were equal (13.7%) in 95 plate-appearances for Quad Cities last year. In total, his walks have approximately doubled his strikeouts. From what I can tell, the only other player approaching this feat within St. Louis’ farm system is Jermaine Curtis (8% K/PA, 15.6% BB/PA).

Is this sustainable? Is there any precedent for this type of player in Major League Baseball?

The highest BB/K (1.29) among qualified hitters in 2012 belongs to Carlos Lee, and there’s only nine players total walking as often as they strike out. If the parameters of this search are extended back to 1990 (minimum of 1000 PAs), there’s exactly one player who managed to walk twice as often as he struck out, and his name is Tony Gwynn. This leader board list runs the gamut of hitters from dominant (i.e. Gwynn, Bonds, Pujols) to good (i.e. O. Smith, W. Randolph, G. Jeffries) to bad (i.e. Oquendo, LaValliere). Only eight of the hitters in this sample own better than 1.5 BB/K ratios.

Mike O’Neill will not walk twice as often as he strikes out in the big leagues, assuming he ever gets there, and that is a huge assumption given that he has yet to dip his toes in double-A. I feel much more comfortable believing that O’Neill can continue to walk more often than he strikes out, though this may not be inherently valuable given the vast array of players that have done so in the past have been all over the offensive spectrum.

O’Neill has performed respectably since his professional debut, posting wOBAs of .371 in 2010, .400+ for Batavia and Quad Cities in 2011, and .385 for Palm Beach in 2012.

Of course, reason for skepticism exists as O’Neill possesses zero power. Well, maybe not zero. He did hit 1 HR in 2011 about which he admitted, “I had to pinch my arm to make sure I wasn’t dreaming,” in this recent interview at Redbird Rants. Furthermore, much of his value to date has depended on high batting averages on balls in play. His BABIP rests at .362 in 2012 and .358 for his career. Unless his speed is better than his stolen base ability suggests, sustaining such good fortune is unsupported by a relatively normal batted ball profile (slightly higher than average line drives and ground balls).

In an era where educated fans eagerly regress improbable numbers to league average rates, it’s important to recognize that a player like Mike O’Neill might not pan out as a professional baseball player, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun to celebrate and monitor statistical quirks like O’Neill’s ability to avoid striking out.

So as you pour over minor league box scores to track the latest Shelby Miller outing in Memphis, count how many hits the Wong/Taveras tandem accumulated in Springfield, or root for Seth Maness to rattle off another stretch of innings without issuing a base-on-ball, let me add another stat to your list. Check to see if Mike O’Neill strikes out. Because I doubt he did.

Here’s some footage of Mike O’Neill and the other Palm Beach Cardinals (Starlin Rodriguez and Anthony Ferrara, Jr.) in the FSL’s 2012 All-Star Game, complete with some really bizarre mascot stuff… if you’re into that kind of thing.

16 Responses to “Appreciating Mike O’Neill”
  1. Todd says:

    Org player. Unlikely to ever reach the big leagues.

  2. pitch and hit says:

    Andy,
    Didn’t want you to think that your piece went unnoticed or unappreciated. Thanks.

    BTW, he has panned out as a professional baseball player, just not at the highest level.

    As much as there are people here who only want to hear about the studs day in and day out, it’s good to hear about those “organizational” guys who do their share in help to win games and being one of the guys that provides the “team” needed for the top prospects to play in. So their role even if minor is important.

    For those who think that they know all about the game and the studs by watching milbtv or from the stands, keep one thing in mind, ALL of these guys (even the organizational ones) are living the life that you dream about every night!

  3. Indiana Cardinal says:

    How is he defensively??

  4. Joe says:

    I’ll take the prospect that has more RBI’s then strikeouts– it’s a lot harder and more credible, IMO. Hey pitch and hit– seriously dude– get over yourself– really not that cool.

  5. Andy Beard says:

    Just so we’re clear, the intention of this piece wasn’t to hype Mike O’Neill as some big time prospect. Sure, it’s unlikely that he makes it all the way to St. Louis, but he’s succeeded thus far, and he’s done so via an interesting skill set that I thought would be fun to highlight. That’s all.

    • pitch and hit says:

      Joe, get over what?

      Andy, some of us got it, thanks.

      • Joe says:

        For those who think that they know all about the game and the studs by watching milbtv or from the stands, keep one thing in mind, ALL of these guys (even the organizational ones) are living the life that you dream about every night!

        This is ridiculous- get over yourself.

        • Richard says:

          I fail to see how that quote is “really not that cool” or “ridiculous”, even if their life isn’t exactly what I dream about. Most people cut a little slack when they see hyperbole.

  6. Richard says:

    I’d like to see him promoted up, just to see if his average and OBP are sustainable at a higher, more age-appropriate level.

  7. Tom s. says:

    I like watching him succeed. Still, unless he projects better in center field than I think he does, he doesn’t have much precedent for success at the major league level. Skip schumaker was successful for a few years in a corner. Ichiro was the only real archetype for success long-term in the majors with a power-free skillset.

    While he’s got a better walk skill than Ichiro, I think it’s pretty farfetched to hope for that kind of career for him.

    The alternative – probably more likely – is to hope he’s Matt Carpenter and discovers more power as he gets older. Brett Gardner might be a credible extreme upside comp on his hitting skills.

    • Richard says:

      Tony Gwynn? Not much power when he came to the bigs. Granted, Gwynn showed more power in the minors.

      • nmstar says:

        Both Gwynn and Ichiro were very good at getting stolen bases (well Gwynn was before he really started packing on the pounds). Lacking that extra skill is only going to make it more difficult for O’Neill to break through since he doesn’t seem to have that kind of speed/baserunning ability.

        I wonder if Ramsey’s imminent arrival at Palm Beach will shake things up in the system for other outfielders to get Ramsey playing time? That might help O’Neill get bumped up. Anyway, I will play closer attention to O’Neill’s stats in the future.

  8. cariocacardinal says:

    Az with the Jinx again as O’neill obliges with last night!

  9. Thad Scucchi says:

    Cedric Hunter & Jermaine Curtis may have more walks than strike outs. Just think what Tyler Green’s BA would be if his walk to strike out numbers were reversed ?

  10. Ulf Bjorkman says:

    I like the fact that you’re posting write-ups about would-be athletes. I like Mike O’Neill. True, it may be difficult to say that he can go all the way up to St. Louis but he’s doing his job, and seems to me that he’s doing well at where he is right now.

  11. thad scucchi says:

    Just a wish but if 40 batters bat in the first game of a series and foul or take 10 pitches each, it would probably use up six pitchers to make 400 pitches . Now one could have a better chance to win next 2 games. Mike O’Neill may be the best hitting instructor in baseball and could some day be a good Major League Manager. If he were a second Catcher he would be on a major league roster, would be great to see him back up Molina in April. Wish-Hope – I’d like to see Kozma play CF and more or Matt Carpenter learning 2B – catcher. wish-hope-Just a thought.

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