Comments on: Daily Farm Report – 7/9/12 http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/ Baseball's Future in the Gateway City Fri, 17 May 2013 00:09:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: cariocacardinal http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75526 cariocacardinal Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:31:33 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75526 Andrew, you are not thinking clearly!

1. He wasn’t out all year. he was healthy to start the seaon.

2. They can draft him for the 25 man roster and then put him on the 60 day DL if not healthy. Wouldn’t affect there 25 man roster management at all for the time he was out. They still have to keep him on the 25 man roster once healthy (even if it is the next season) but that wouldn’t keep top player from being drafted.

3. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY He wasn’t drafted! The whole question here was whether he was eligible or not. He was. He wasn’t drafted. If teams didn’t draft him due to injury concerns that doesn’t change the answer to the question. In fact, I think he has been eligible 3 times already and not drafted.

As far as his prospect status and that relative to Tilson there is one major factor at play — Age/Career Pham is about 5 years older and on top of that I believe he is a minor league FA after this season if not put on the 40 man roster (that will be an interesting decision by the Cards); Tilson has 5 more years until that decision becomes necessary. That means one still has time to develop and for the other the time is now.

]]> By: Felonius_Monk http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75524 Felonius_Monk Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:47:59 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75524 (Very early) quick look at the newly drafted hitters:

James Ramsey, with his rather aggressive assignment to high-A Palm Beach, perhaps unsurprisingly struggling to start with: 82 wRC+ (i.e. about 20% below-average for the league) in 6 games, with only 1 walk.

Stephen Piscotty, who ended up a rung below Ramsey (perhaps due to 3B logjam?) is raking in A-ball (QC): 183 wRC+, a near 1:1 K:BB ratio, and an impressive .250 ISO. Can see him in Palm Beach by the end of the year.

Patrick Wisdom, as a college draftee and 1st rounder, really should be raking in Batavia (short season A-ball); luckily he is: 154 wRC+ with pretty solid peripherals, though not as much pop as Piscotty, 13 games in. I’m guessing he’ll be up in QC as soon as Piscotty makes it to Palm Beach.

Steve Bean (66 wRC+) and Carson Kelly (33 wRC+) are struggling badly in rookie ball, but at least both (especially 17-yo Kelly) have plenty of time.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75516 Andrew Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:08:15 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75516 So tell me why WOULD any team pick him in the Rule 5 draft if they would to keep him on the 25 man roster for the whole year knowing that he was on the DL and was out fo rhte year? Fact is the guy is very talented and he shouldn’t be written off simply because he has had a horrible string of luck. Did Charlie Tilson lose his prospect status because he had a major shoulder injury? If not why would Pham.

]]> By: tom s. http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75510 tom s. Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:56:55 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75510 he was available.

http://www.bucsdugout.com/2011/12/5/2572470/rule-5-draft-guide-2011

http://baseballnewshound.com/?page_id=1868

]]> By: cariocacardinal http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75509 cariocacardinal Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:56:08 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75509 Grunt is correct – there is no 60 day (or 15 day) DL during the off season. Add the fact that Pham wasn’t on the 60 day DL since that applies to guys who were on the 40 man roster which he was not. (If he was the Rule 5 draft wouldn’t apply to him!)

]]> By: Gruntosaurus http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75508 Gruntosaurus Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:45:45 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75508 At the end of the season, someone who is on the 60-day DL must be removed from that list, and either restored to to the 40-man or outrighted (I think). The 60-man cannot be used as indefinite protection during the off season.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75507 Andrew Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:32:33 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75507 Someone on the 60day DL can be available via rule 5?

]]> By: cariocacardinal http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75506 cariocacardinal Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:14:06 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75506 yes he was

]]> By: Andrew http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75505 Andrew Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:27:51 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75505 He wasn’t available via rule 5 this year. I don’t think at least.

]]> By: pitch and hit http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/07/10/daily-farm-report-7912/comment-page-1/#comment-75504 pitch and hit Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:13:27 +0000 http://www.futureredbirds.net/?p=9796#comment-75504 I agree, you don’t get better sitting in rehab, you just watch others pass you by.
The shoulder not healing properly was not his fault, so I will give him teh benefit of the doubt and hoping that ht e gets another fair shot.

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