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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/08/05/probable-starters-8512/comment-page-1/#comment-78627</link>
		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in looking back at the most recent DFR, i see blair was terrible in his debut at PB. 

but yes, if only we&#039;d known that he&#039;d pitched 3 innings in the GCL, allowed a hit, two walks, and a strikeout, we could have drawn some reasonable conclusions from that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in looking back at the most recent DFR, i see blair was terrible in his debut at PB. </p>
<p>but yes, if only we&#8217;d known that he&#8217;d pitched 3 innings in the GCL, allowed a hit, two walks, and a strikeout, we could have drawn some reasonable conclusions from that.</p>
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		<title>By: tom s.</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/08/05/probable-starters-8512/comment-page-1/#comment-78626</link>
		<dc:creator>tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t think the appy league stats are terribly significant, though clearly moreso than the GCL stats from glorified scrimmages. the GCL is like year-long spring training for 17 and 18 year olds.

in the past, the prospect community has been far more guilty of overrating lower-level stats (leading to unwarranted optimism on Nick Longmire and Niko Vasquez) than not considering lower-level stats. since there&#039;s good evidence that short-season ball stats have very limited value, i can&#039;t imagine what value instructional league stats would have. i can&#039;t point to a single prospect whose path would have been clearer if we&#039;d followed him from the GCL.

i&#039;d be against adding GCL stats to FR because 1) i think adding more work would make it harder to keep a volunteer staff putting out good content, 2) i think most readers would find the information unhelpful; 3) i think the comments section would see a lot of uninformed posters reading far too much into GCL stats. 

i really don&#039;t care whether seth blair strikes out 3 guys or 6 guys in a given day in the GCL. even if a 23 year old starts striking out 17-year-olds in an instructional league by the truckload, he won&#039;t really be a prospect until he starts doing it at Quad Cities. i&#039;m interested in whether guys at the GCL level get released, injured, or promoted, but otherwise, their day-to-day stats are pretty meaningless.  

not being &quot;comprehensive&quot; is not really a complaint. FR could add DSL stats, too, to be comprehensive. i&#039;d rather the site be &quot;useful&quot; or &quot;interesting&quot; than &quot;comprehensive.&quot; i don&#039;t think GCL day-to-day updates qualify as useful or interesting other than as a curiosity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think the appy league stats are terribly significant, though clearly moreso than the GCL stats from glorified scrimmages. the GCL is like year-long spring training for 17 and 18 year olds.</p>
<p>in the past, the prospect community has been far more guilty of overrating lower-level stats (leading to unwarranted optimism on Nick Longmire and Niko Vasquez) than not considering lower-level stats. since there&#8217;s good evidence that short-season ball stats have very limited value, i can&#8217;t imagine what value instructional league stats would have. i can&#8217;t point to a single prospect whose path would have been clearer if we&#8217;d followed him from the GCL.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d be against adding GCL stats to FR because 1) i think adding more work would make it harder to keep a volunteer staff putting out good content, 2) i think most readers would find the information unhelpful; 3) i think the comments section would see a lot of uninformed posters reading far too much into GCL stats. </p>
<p>i really don&#8217;t care whether seth blair strikes out 3 guys or 6 guys in a given day in the GCL. even if a 23 year old starts striking out 17-year-olds in an instructional league by the truckload, he won&#8217;t really be a prospect until he starts doing it at Quad Cities. i&#8217;m interested in whether guys at the GCL level get released, injured, or promoted, but otherwise, their day-to-day stats are pretty meaningless.  </p>
<p>not being &#8220;comprehensive&#8221; is not really a complaint. FR could add DSL stats, too, to be comprehensive. i&#8217;d rather the site be &#8220;useful&#8221; or &#8220;interesting&#8221; than &#8220;comprehensive.&#8221; i don&#8217;t think GCL day-to-day updates qualify as useful or interesting other than as a curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom S.:
1. Even if they mean &quot;next to nothing&quot;--which I doubt--that isn&#039;t nothing.  A lot of significant prospects get their starts there.  How much more significant is the App League in your scheme of things?
2.  If adding a seventh is a major burden, so be it.  The site, for all its virtues, thus remains less than comprehensive.
3.  I do look them up.  This isn&#039;t the only site I follow.  At least one is far more comprehensive than this one.  I do like this one, however, because of the knowledge and passion of the commentators and their comments.  So far, I&#039;m afraid this doesn&#039;t include you.
4.  Not you apparently.  I suspect that, unlike you, most who come to this site retain some interest in the development, or failure to develop, of a top Cardinal draft choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom S.:<br />
1. Even if they mean &#8220;next to nothing&#8221;&#8211;which I doubt&#8211;that isn&#8217;t nothing.  A lot of significant prospects get their starts there.  How much more significant is the App League in your scheme of things?<br />
2.  If adding a seventh is a major burden, so be it.  The site, for all its virtues, thus remains less than comprehensive.<br />
3.  I do look them up.  This isn&#8217;t the only site I follow.  At least one is far more comprehensive than this one.  I do like this one, however, because of the knowledge and passion of the commentators and their comments.  So far, I&#8217;m afraid this doesn&#8217;t include you.<br />
4.  Not you apparently.  I suspect that, unlike you, most who come to this site retain some interest in the development, or failure to develop, of a top Cardinal draft choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/08/05/probable-starters-8512/comment-page-1/#comment-78588</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like its time for a...SHELBY MILLER ALERT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like its time for a&#8230;SHELBY MILLER ALERT!</p>
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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>wileyvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having a bad day Tom S.?  

So after all the arguing you did with me over on my GCL post, it turns out you actually agree with me.  Huh!  Go figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a bad day Tom S.?  </p>
<p>So after all the arguing you did with me over on my GCL post, it turns out you actually agree with me.  Huh!  Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A) gulf coast results mean next to nothing.
B) the staff here already put together 6 levels worth of results.
C) if you&#039;re so concerned about the GCL, look up the results yourself.
D) who cares about Seth Blair?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) gulf coast results mean next to nothing.<br />
B) the staff here already put together 6 levels worth of results.<br />
C) if you&#8217;re so concerned about the GCL, look up the results yourself.<br />
D) who cares about Seth Blair?</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats the Miller we all grew accustom to last year.  7 strong with 0 BBs and 8K&#039;s and it took less than 100 pitches which is a great sign.  Been much better of late and hopefully he is on his way to finishing the year strong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats the Miller we all grew accustom to last year.  7 strong with 0 BBs and 8K&#8217;s and it took less than 100 pitches which is a great sign.  Been much better of late and hopefully he is on his way to finishing the year strong.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shelby and seth manness both pitched great today]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shelby and seth manness both pitched great today</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blair has been rehabbing in the Gulf Coast League for several weeks.  Unfortunately, this otherwise excellent site finds that league unworthy of notice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blair has been rehabbing in the Gulf Coast League for several weeks.  Unfortunately, this otherwise excellent site finds that league unworthy of notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Thirtytwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thirtytwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seth Blair is making his 2012 debut today at Bradenton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth Blair is making his 2012 debut today at Bradenton.</p>
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