Comments on: Daily Farm Report – 8/8/12

By: Uofix3

Uofix3 — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:14:44 +0000

John Sickels’ take on Jackson’s call-up

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/8/10/3234200/minor-league-prospect-note-ryan-jackson-ss-st-louis-cardinals#storyjump

By: CRay

CRay — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:48:54 +0000

Hey, rch3: thanks for the correction on Rosenthal’s innings. I obviously forgot to look at the playoffs and appreciate the info. All in all, that means the Cards can push him a little more than I thought the rest of this year. And, it means that, should he make the rotation next year, he could come close to pitching a full season.

By: Gruntosaurus

Gruntosaurus — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:52:05 +0000

Oops. Should have been clearer. After Gaub, I mean; agreed, he’s almost certainly the first man off the 40-man if it comes to that.

By: Gruntosaurus

Gruntosaurus — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:51:28 +0000

I’m not worried about next season; I’m worried about next week, when Garcia comes off the DL. The first 40-man cut will have to be made then, not waiting for next season. I’d agree that most of the guys you mention are candidates for an off-season non-tender, although I am irrationally attached to the idea of keeping Steven Hill around for as long as he is willing to be kept — catchers with that much pop don’t grow on trees, even if the “catch” part of catcher is, to put it gently, not a strength. But one of those guys has gotta be removed from the 40-man NOW. We can’t wait for the winter to sort things out.

Of the ones you name, Dickson would be the last one I’d want to cut. There are too many eventualities that could make it ~~desirable~~ an unfortunate necessity that he get a couple of garbage starts before the end of the season. As I’ve said, I rather like keeping Hill around as an emergency catcher-of-sorts, which reduces the short list of immediate potential cuts to Hamilton, Reifer and Marte. I think I’d release them in that order.

By: Tom s.

Tom s. — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:36:50 +0000

Kozma has a temporary lock on the Memphis SS job. Ryan Jackson promoted to STL.

By: jjray

jjray — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 02:02:12 +0000

Yes, Dickson will have a tough time holding on to a 40 man roster spot next season with the Cards … although he might have shown enough for another team to give it to him. But as to the remainder of this season I think Dickson is safe, especially with Garcia getting shelled tonight. Lynn and Joe Kelly are venturing into (or will venture into soon) the territory of career high innings. The organization is in a situation where, if Garcia can’t take a few starts, someone else from Memphis is going to have to step into the breach. Rosenthal and Dickson are on the 40 man. Gast would have to be considered. Not too long ago the Cards would be desperately combing through recently released pitchers trying to find a guy with a pulse. Maybe they take one of the rotation spots and turn it into piggy back (or bullpen) after the rosters expand. Have Garcia, Kelly, and Rosenthal all scheduled for 2-3 innings that night.

By: BigRob

BigRob — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:54:52 +0000

I like Dickson and I think he definitely has value as a Brad Thompson-type. However, as more pitchers are required to be placed on the 40-man, he keeps getting bumped further down the depth chart.

My personal depth chart (currently) for Starting Pitchers:
Wainwright
Lohse
Lynn
Westbrook
Kelly
Miller
Rosenthal
Gast
Dickson

Now that doesn’t include injured pitchers Chris Carpenter and Jaime Garcia. So when you factor them in, Dickson falls from #9 to #11 on my own personal Starters depth chart and Carlos Martinez and Seth Maness are close to passing him as well.

By: jjray

jjray — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:16:32 +0000

Brandon Dickson still has value as an emergency starter. Hamilton and one of Hill or Anderson would be my bet. Luhnow probably already has a locker set up for Bryan Anderson down in Houston right next to Tyler Greene. Gaub is another possibility with the acquisition of Fuentes.

By: jjray

jjray — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:13:00 +0000

I all for Ryan Jackson getting the call. The organization benefits from giving him exposure to the bigs this season and he is reputed to be the best defensive SS in high minors of our organization. Considering the situation with Furcal’s back and the injection he recently took, let’s get a look at the best defensive SS on the big stage. He’s also acquitted himself well at the plate the season so I think Jackson has earned it.

By: RCHIII

RCHIII — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:12:57 +0000

I disagree. Rosenthal was not a bonus baby – I would not discount the pay raise issue at all. I also think the Cards will consider him for the rotation in 2013 even though I think he will be in the pen – so giving him a taste makes sense. And while I am a broken record, Rosenthal’s innings of 120 do not include his subsequent 16 in the play-offs, so his real innings pitched was 136 last year.