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		<title>By: wileyvet</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/08/29/daily-farm-report-82812/comment-page-1/#comment-80629</link>
		<dc:creator>wileyvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 04:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to remember that O&#039;Neil played CF for PB right up until the Cards assigned James Ramsey there.  At that point he was moved to LF.  For someone like say the Padres a .300 (light) hitting CF would be acceptable.  For O&#039;Neil the situation has to be just right for him to be given a starting role.  It won&#039;t be in St.Louis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to remember that O&#8217;Neil played CF for PB right up until the Cards assigned James Ramsey there.  At that point he was moved to LF.  For someone like say the Padres a .300 (light) hitting CF would be acceptable.  For O&#8217;Neil the situation has to be just right for him to be given a starting role.  It won&#8217;t be in St.Louis.</p>
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		<title>By: Gruntosaurus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gruntosaurus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curtis has predominantly played 3B (badly) in the minors.  He&#039;s not the same age as O&#039;Neill, but most of a year older.  He&#039;s also repeating the level, so one would expect him to hit there.  Not a good O&#039;Neill comp, IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis has predominantly played 3B (badly) in the minors.  He&#8217;s not the same age as O&#8217;Neill, but most of a year older.  He&#8217;s also repeating the level, so one would expect him to hit there.  Not a good O&#8217;Neill comp, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have been using that term all year. He&#039;s not the youngest guy and he&#039;s not that raw.  He&#039;s a smalll guy with good  bat speed and a lot of speed he hasn&#039;t started using yet.  We would have a lot more people excited about him if he wasn&#039;t blocked by Wong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been using that term all year. He&#8217;s not the youngest guy and he&#8217;s not that raw.  He&#8217;s a smalll guy with good  bat speed and a lot of speed he hasn&#8217;t started using yet.  We would have a lot more people excited about him if he wasn&#8217;t blocked by Wong.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another interesting stat Rodriguez owns a .362 BABIP in the FSL this season we can put the term &quot;raw toolsy&quot; on him now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting stat Rodriguez owns a .362 BABIP in the FSL this season we can put the term &#8220;raw toolsy&#8221; on him now.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/08/29/daily-farm-report-82812/comment-page-1/#comment-80595</link>
		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben O&#039;Shea has been impressive on the mound this season 3-2 record 2.91 ERA 12 games 55.2 IP  5 BB/39K and a 1.08 WHIP. 

O&#039;Shea another 6-foot-5 southpaw has excellent command uses an average change-up with a high 80s fastball. Could we have another Kevin Siegrist type prospect on our hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben O&#8217;Shea has been impressive on the mound this season 3-2 record 2.91 ERA 12 games 55.2 IP  5 BB/39K and a 1.08 WHIP. </p>
<p>O&#8217;Shea another 6-foot-5 southpaw has excellent command uses an average change-up with a high 80s fastball. Could we have another Kevin Siegrist type prospect on our hands.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It certainly will be interesting to see how Starlin Rodriguez fares out in Springfield. Rodriguez with that plus bat speed should hit for more power potential in the launching pad TL next season. Like you stated he&#039;s OPSing .831 in the FSL impressive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly will be interesting to see how Starlin Rodriguez fares out in Springfield. Rodriguez with that plus bat speed should hit for more power potential in the launching pad TL next season. Like you stated he&#8217;s OPSing .831 in the FSL impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: cariocacarinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cariocacarinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without wanting to sound cruel, my guess is that Mcgregor&#039;s Cardinal career will soon be shut down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without wanting to sound cruel, my guess is that Mcgregor&#8217;s Cardinal career will soon be shut down.</p>
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		<title>By: illinoiscardinalfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>illinoiscardinalfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless O&#039;Neil is the next Schumaker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless O&#8217;Neil is the next Schumaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an interesting comparison:

Jermaine Curtis has been at AA almost all season. They&#039;re the same age. Like O&#039;Neill, he has more walks than strikeouts, with very little power or speed. 

Also like O&#039;Neil, he has what looks like an unsustainable BABIP (.363 for Curtis, .567 for O&#039;Neill). 

For the season, he&#039;s hitting .319/.424/.385, good for an excellent .379 wOBA. 

Let&#039;s say those numbers would be the best-case scenario for O&#039;Neill over a full season at AA. Would we consider those good numbers for a 24-year-old corner outfielder in AA? Probably not. Curtis is an infielder who plays 3rd, probably by default. I&#039;m pretty sure he played 2nd in college, and has mostly played there in the minors. But he&#039;s not going to play there ahead of Wong or Garcia. 

Nobody looks at Curtis and sees a prospect. Maybe a future utility guy. (IIRC, he had a reputation at UCLA as a hard-nosed player and team leader.) And yet, on paper, he should be more valuable than O&#039;Neill. Take away the freakish BABIP, and he&#039;s near the end of a long line of lefty-hitting corner outfielders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting comparison:</p>
<p>Jermaine Curtis has been at AA almost all season. They&#8217;re the same age. Like O&#8217;Neill, he has more walks than strikeouts, with very little power or speed. </p>
<p>Also like O&#8217;Neil, he has what looks like an unsustainable BABIP (.363 for Curtis, .567 for O&#8217;Neill). </p>
<p>For the season, he&#8217;s hitting .319/.424/.385, good for an excellent .379 wOBA. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say those numbers would be the best-case scenario for O&#8217;Neill over a full season at AA. Would we consider those good numbers for a 24-year-old corner outfielder in AA? Probably not. Curtis is an infielder who plays 3rd, probably by default. I&#8217;m pretty sure he played 2nd in college, and has mostly played there in the minors. But he&#8217;s not going to play there ahead of Wong or Garcia. </p>
<p>Nobody looks at Curtis and sees a prospect. Maybe a future utility guy. (IIRC, he had a reputation at UCLA as a hard-nosed player and team leader.) And yet, on paper, he should be more valuable than O&#8217;Neill. Take away the freakish BABIP, and he&#8217;s near the end of a long line of lefty-hitting corner outfielders.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the glovework is good -- and he has the range for all 3 outfield spots -- O&#039;Neill could be an acceptable 4th or excellent 5th outfielder somewhere down the line.

It&#039;s just such a rare, even bizarre, profile. Seventy walks v. twenty-four whiffs at Palm Beach... and continuing that ratio so far in Springfield. Richie Ashburn notwithstanding, guys as punchless as O&#039;Neill very rarely can maintain high walk rates at the MLB level. It&#039;d be nice if O&#039;Neill were a basestealer -- but he doesn&#039;t do that, either.

I will say this: If, somehow, someway, O&#039;Neill could ever hit .300/.400/.380 in the majors, I believe that&#039;s basically equivalent to .280/.350/.465 or so (10 points of OBP being worth roughly 17 of slugging). And that would indeed be enough offense for a starting corner outfielder on a 90-win team, if the defense/baserunning is average or better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the glovework is good &#8212; and he has the range for all 3 outfield spots &#8212; O&#8217;Neill could be an acceptable 4th or excellent 5th outfielder somewhere down the line.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just such a rare, even bizarre, profile. Seventy walks v. twenty-four whiffs at Palm Beach&#8230; and continuing that ratio so far in Springfield. Richie Ashburn notwithstanding, guys as punchless as O&#8217;Neill very rarely can maintain high walk rates at the MLB level. It&#8217;d be nice if O&#8217;Neill were a basestealer &#8212; but he doesn&#8217;t do that, either.</p>
<p>I will say this: If, somehow, someway, O&#8217;Neill could ever hit .300/.400/.380 in the majors, I believe that&#8217;s basically equivalent to .280/.350/.465 or so (10 points of OBP being worth roughly 17 of slugging). And that would indeed be enough offense for a starting corner outfielder on a 90-win team, if the defense/baserunning is average or better.</p>
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