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	<description>Baseball&#039;s Future in the Gateway City</description>
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		<title>By: Forsch31</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/02/daily-farm-report-912/comment-page-1/#comment-81102</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsch31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see any top prospects in that group. I see a lot of guys still in low A ball, several of them old for the league, some raw guys with several issues, and some decent major league filler (e.g., Stanley&#039;s ceiling is probably a backup catcher).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any top prospects in that group. I see a lot of guys still in low A ball, several of them old for the league, some raw guys with several issues, and some decent major league filler (e.g., Stanley&#8217;s ceiling is probably a backup catcher).</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Cardinal</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/02/daily-farm-report-912/comment-page-1/#comment-81101</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Cardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say 3 or so &quot;top prospects&quot; from the group listed by me and DT, plus &quot;x&quot; number of prospects that can ultimately make the major league roster or be used as a trade chips, makes a &quot;deep&quot; not a &quot;thin&quot; position prospect system below the AAA level. 

I realize we are quibbling about words, &quot;deep&quot; versus &quot;thin&quot;, but when considering the few openings at the big league level, and the excellent prospects and depth at AAA, I am not worried about what the Cards have in the way of postion prospects below AAA, particularly in light of the group suggested by me and DT (keeping in mind that there is always a good chance for another player or two to come out of nowhere and be thereafter considered to be a &quot;top prospect&quot;, particularly so with the Latin American players, not well known to this point , e.g. B Valera).

I expect them to be one of the few teams that have more than one first round pick next year (offering Lohse the requisit one year contract seems likely).  That will give them one of the better opportunities to further add to the system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say 3 or so &#8220;top prospects&#8221; from the group listed by me and DT, plus &#8220;x&#8221; number of prospects that can ultimately make the major league roster or be used as a trade chips, makes a &#8220;deep&#8221; not a &#8220;thin&#8221; position prospect system below the AAA level. </p>
<p>I realize we are quibbling about words, &#8220;deep&#8221; versus &#8220;thin&#8221;, but when considering the few openings at the big league level, and the excellent prospects and depth at AAA, I am not worried about what the Cards have in the way of postion prospects below AAA, particularly in light of the group suggested by me and DT (keeping in mind that there is always a good chance for another player or two to come out of nowhere and be thereafter considered to be a &#8220;top prospect&#8221;, particularly so with the Latin American players, not well known to this point , e.g. B Valera).</p>
<p>I expect them to be one of the few teams that have more than one first round pick next year (offering Lohse the requisit one year contract seems likely).  That will give them one of the better opportunities to further add to the system.</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 16:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, you&#039;re just listing guys.  I agree with azru.  There is a void after the almost-ML position player talent, like Taveras, Wong, and Adams.  Other than A. Garcia, and maybe a couple of this year&#039;s draft picks who have played a half year at best and none of whom have really excelled, no one looks like a top prospect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, you&#8217;re just listing guys.  I agree with azru.  There is a void after the almost-ML position player talent, like Taveras, Wong, and Adams.  Other than A. Garcia, and maybe a couple of this year&#8217;s draft picks who have played a half year at best and none of whom have really excelled, no one looks like a top prospect.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some other positional prospects that could contribute in the system or in the majors Alex Mejia SS (if healthy, Lance Jeffries OF (not counting him out yet he&#039;s only 18 years old), Illdemaro Vargas 2B recently promoted to Batavia, Jacob Wilson 3B has some power potential, and Rowan Wick C (very raw but has some upside short and simple swing will help him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other positional prospects that could contribute in the system or in the majors Alex Mejia SS (if healthy, Lance Jeffries OF (not counting him out yet he&#8217;s only 18 years old), Illdemaro Vargas 2B recently promoted to Batavia, Jacob Wilson 3B has some power potential, and Rowan Wick C (very raw but has some upside short and simple swing will help him.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana Cardinal</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/02/daily-farm-report-912/comment-page-1/#comment-81083</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Cardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not trying to be argumentative but what about OF Ramsey, C Stanley, 3b/OF Piscotty, 3b Kelly, 3b Wisdom, C Bean, IF/OF Walsh, 2b/SS B Valera, 2b S Rodriguez, 1b J Rodriguez, C J Castillo, OF Garcia, SS Williams, OF Tilson, OF McElroy, C Erhlich, OF Capellan, SS Peoples-Walls and 2b L Perez?  O&#039;Neill will probably start at AA.

I am not saying all of those guys will be excellent, but I am also sure that I have either missed someone and there are always guys that suprise that I did not list, but I certainly don&#039;t think the system is thin on good prospect position players below AAA.  When you include the players that will start at AAA due to the small number of needs at St. Louis, I think the system is excellent overall vis-a-vis position players and very good or better at AA and below going into next season, not &quot;thin&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not trying to be argumentative but what about OF Ramsey, C Stanley, 3b/OF Piscotty, 3b Kelly, 3b Wisdom, C Bean, IF/OF Walsh, 2b/SS B Valera, 2b S Rodriguez, 1b J Rodriguez, C J Castillo, OF Garcia, SS Williams, OF Tilson, OF McElroy, C Erhlich, OF Capellan, SS Peoples-Walls and 2b L Perez?  O&#8217;Neill will probably start at AA.</p>
<p>I am not saying all of those guys will be excellent, but I am also sure that I have either missed someone and there are always guys that suprise that I did not list, but I certainly don&#8217;t think the system is thin on good prospect position players below AAA.  When you include the players that will start at AAA due to the small number of needs at St. Louis, I think the system is excellent overall vis-a-vis position players and very good or better at AA and below going into next season, not &#8220;thin&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: cariocacardinal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cariocacardinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My prediction:  Starts the season in the SPFLD rotation, moves up after about 2 months to the Memphis rotation, and finishes 2013 in the STL bullpen.   He&#039;s in the 2104 starting rotation.   Needless to say, I&#039;m entirely sold on this guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction:  Starts the season in the SPFLD rotation, moves up after about 2 months to the Memphis rotation, and finishes 2013 in the STL bullpen.   He&#8217;s in the 2104 starting rotation.   Needless to say, I&#8217;m entirely sold on this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems likely that Wacha starts in Springfield but I think Cards trade from starting pitching surplus this offseason]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems likely that Wacha starts in Springfield but I think Cards trade from starting pitching surplus this offseason</p>
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		<title>By: Forsch31</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/02/daily-farm-report-912/comment-page-1/#comment-81056</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsch31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wacha&#039;s not even at Memphis this year. He&#039;s only thrown in relief in the pros so far, not started. The highest he&#039;ll start next season is probably Springfield, where he is now and only appearing in 7 innings in 3 games at that. 

Absolutely no need to rush any pitching prospect in the Cardinals&#039; system. To get to the Cardinals&#039; rotation next year, Wacha will have to leapfrog at least Miller, Rosenthal, and Kelly. That&#039;s not likely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wacha&#8217;s not even at Memphis this year. He&#8217;s only thrown in relief in the pros so far, not started. The highest he&#8217;ll start next season is probably Springfield, where he is now and only appearing in 7 innings in 3 games at that. </p>
<p>Absolutely no need to rush any pitching prospect in the Cardinals&#8217; system. To get to the Cardinals&#8217; rotation next year, Wacha will have to leapfrog at least Miller, Rosenthal, and Kelly. That&#8217;s not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Forsch31</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forsch31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arzu acknowledged the influx of position players Memphis will get next year. His point was on the system as a whole, which I agree with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arzu acknowledged the influx of position players Memphis will get next year. His point was on the system as a whole, which I agree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look for Wacha to be at Memphis to start things off next year.  And, in the Cardinal rotation at some point of next season.

I look for Taveras to force his way into the Cardinal lineup with a great spring, much as Pujols did, and for Wong to arrive around mid-season, if not sooner.

If a dog&#039;s mean, it&#039;ll bite you when it&#039;s a pup.  

These are mean pups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look for Wacha to be at Memphis to start things off next year.  And, in the Cardinal rotation at some point of next season.</p>
<p>I look for Taveras to force his way into the Cardinal lineup with a great spring, much as Pujols did, and for Wong to arrive around mid-season, if not sooner.</p>
<p>If a dog&#8217;s mean, it&#8217;ll bite you when it&#8217;s a pup.  </p>
<p>These are mean pups.</p>
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