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		<title>By: Forsch31</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/03/daily-farm-report-9212/comment-page-1/#comment-81146</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsch31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. I blanked on Siegrist.

2. I tossed in Benes last, as having an outside shot at the Springfield rotation, depending on where some pitchers fall (the decisions for the Memphis rotation are going to be interesting). He&#039;s started 16 games at Palm Beach this year, pitching 103.1 innings with a 4.01 FIP compared to a 5.31 ERA, a 6.88 K/9 and 3.14 BB/9, a .7 HR/9. While he&#039;s been bounced in and out of rotation, he has as decent as a chance anybody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I blanked on Siegrist.</p>
<p>2. I tossed in Benes last, as having an outside shot at the Springfield rotation, depending on where some pitchers fall (the decisions for the Memphis rotation are going to be interesting). He&#8217;s started 16 games at Palm Beach this year, pitching 103.1 innings with a 4.01 FIP compared to a 5.31 ERA, a 6.88 K/9 and 3.14 BB/9, a .7 HR/9. While he&#8217;s been bounced in and out of rotation, he has as decent as a chance anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: DT FLush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT FLush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and there&#039;s still a solid chance of Robert Stock to pitch in the majors]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and there&#8217;s still a solid chance of Robert Stock to pitch in the majors</p>
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		<title>By: skszyszowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>skszyszowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No reports of Wong being injured.  My guess is that the Manager wanted to give recent call-up Neil Pritchard a full game.  Thus, Wong and
Greg Garcia split the game at 2B, while Pritchard gets a last day gift of four ABs while playing SS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No reports of Wong being injured.  My guess is that the Manager wanted to give recent call-up Neil Pritchard a full game.  Thus, Wong and<br />
Greg Garcia split the game at 2B, while Pritchard gets a last day gift of four ABs while playing SS.</p>
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		<title>By: giveml</title>
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		<dc:creator>giveml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of questions:  Where is Siegrist?  Benes, really?  Any reason besides the name?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of questions:  Where is Siegrist?  Benes, really?  Any reason besides the name?</p>
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		<title>By: Forsch31</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/03/daily-farm-report-9212/comment-page-1/#comment-81118</link>
		<dc:creator>Forsch31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a vacuum, perhaps. But he&#039;s part of a farm system, that has a large number of excellent pitching prospects who are at the same level or are more advanced in their development than Wacha. Also, his numbers come as a reliever, not as a starter. His velocity probably will not be as high as it is now (velocity usually takes a hit when pitchers realize they have to pace themselves through several innings), and the fact that he&#039;ll be facing batters multiple times through the order will affect his approach. Jumping to the concluson that he&#039;ll be ready for the majors next year based on 7 innings in Double A is a pretty darn big jump.

Assuming everyone is healthy next year, here&#039;s probably how the rotations at the top three levels probably shape up:

St. Louis: Wainwright, Garcia, Carpenter, Lynn/Kelly, Westbrook
Memphis: Miller, Rosenthal, Lyons, Gast, Maness/Gorgen/Castillo
Springfield: Martinez, Whiting, Wacha, Maness/Gorgen/Castillo, Benes

Even when there are injuries in St. Louis, at least three pitchers will be ahead of Wacha: Kelly/Lynn, Miller, and Rosenthal. I don&#039;t see Wacha jumping ahead of those three at this point in his pro career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a vacuum, perhaps. But he&#8217;s part of a farm system, that has a large number of excellent pitching prospects who are at the same level or are more advanced in their development than Wacha. Also, his numbers come as a reliever, not as a starter. His velocity probably will not be as high as it is now (velocity usually takes a hit when pitchers realize they have to pace themselves through several innings), and the fact that he&#8217;ll be facing batters multiple times through the order will affect his approach. Jumping to the concluson that he&#8217;ll be ready for the majors next year based on 7 innings in Double A is a pretty darn big jump.</p>
<p>Assuming everyone is healthy next year, here&#8217;s probably how the rotations at the top three levels probably shape up:</p>
<p>St. Louis: Wainwright, Garcia, Carpenter, Lynn/Kelly, Westbrook<br />
Memphis: Miller, Rosenthal, Lyons, Gast, Maness/Gorgen/Castillo<br />
Springfield: Martinez, Whiting, Wacha, Maness/Gorgen/Castillo, Benes</p>
<p>Even when there are injuries in St. Louis, at least three pitchers will be ahead of Wacha: Kelly/Lynn, Miller, and Rosenthal. I don&#8217;t see Wacha jumping ahead of those three at this point in his pro career.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim1956</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim1956</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I recall, scouts were saying he could pitch in the big leagues immediatly when he was drafted. He might just be in the show next year. Seems very polished to me. And you certainly can&#039;t argue with the numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, scouts were saying he could pitch in the big leagues immediatly when he was drafted. He might just be in the show next year. Seems very polished to me. And you certainly can&#8217;t argue with the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 10:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Miller makes his first appearance, he&#039;ll be the 6th from the 2009 draft: 

Miller (1st round)
Kelly (3rd)
Jackson (5th)
Carpenter (13th)
Rosenthal (21)
Adams (23)

Kelly is already a solid MLB starter, Carpenter has surpassed all my expectations, and we&#039;re all optimistic about the other 4. Absolute best-case scenario, the Cards will have 3/5 of their future rotation from one draft class, a middle-of-the-order hitter in Adams, a productive regular in Carp, and maybe a solid utility infielder in Jackson.

And there&#039;s still a great chance for 18th-rounder Anthony Garcia to make it as a corner outfielder.

As of now, 2009 looks like Luhnow&#039;s masterpiece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Miller makes his first appearance, he&#8217;ll be the 6th from the 2009 draft: </p>
<p>Miller (1st round)<br />
Kelly (3rd)<br />
Jackson (5th)<br />
Carpenter (13th)<br />
Rosenthal (21)<br />
Adams (23)</p>
<p>Kelly is already a solid MLB starter, Carpenter has surpassed all my expectations, and we&#8217;re all optimistic about the other 4. Absolute best-case scenario, the Cards will have 3/5 of their future rotation from one draft class, a middle-of-the-order hitter in Adams, a productive regular in Carp, and maybe a solid utility infielder in Jackson.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s still a great chance for 18th-rounder Anthony Garcia to make it as a corner outfielder.</p>
<p>As of now, 2009 looks like Luhnow&#8217;s masterpiece.</p>
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		<title>By: illinoiscardinalfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>illinoiscardinalfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I would subtract a zero from those odds. Remember Wacha has not had a start yet. Love what he is doing out of the bullpen, but it is still out of the bullpen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would subtract a zero from those odds. Remember Wacha has not had a start yet. Love what he is doing out of the bullpen, but it is still out of the bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/9/3/3289217/minor-league-prospect-report-shelby-miller-promoted-to-st-louis]]></description>
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		<title>By: DT Flush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT Flush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Sickells on Shelby Miller

&quot;http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/9/3/3289217/minor-league-prospect-report-shelby-miller-promoted-to-st-louis&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Sickells on Shelby Miller</p>
<p>&#8220;http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/9/3/3289217/minor-league-prospect-report-shelby-miller-promoted-to-st-louis&#8221;</p>
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