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		<title>By: Hugecardsfan</title>
		<link>http://www.futureredbirds.net/2012/09/06/daily-farm-report-9612/comment-page-1/#comment-81444</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugecardsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In fact, I wish Adron Chambers were running for Craig in the 11th.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, I wish Adron Chambers were running for Craig in the 11th.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugecardsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugecardsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Adron Chambers is exactly the kind of guy we want up there right now.  By the way, how&#039;d you like that play off the wall?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Adron Chambers is exactly the kind of guy we want up there right now.  By the way, how&#8217;d you like that play off the wall?</p>
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		<title>By: DT FLush</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT FLush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 05:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Hill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 05:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extra inning game...critical point of the season...and punchless, pointless bats like Shane Robinson and Adron Chambers are stealing at-bats from possible call-ups, like...I dunno...whomever might present an actual *threat* at the dish. 

Any nominees?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extra inning game&#8230;critical point of the season&#8230;and punchless, pointless bats like Shane Robinson and Adron Chambers are stealing at-bats from possible call-ups, like&#8230;I dunno&#8230;whomever might present an actual *threat* at the dish. </p>
<p>Any nominees?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/7/2/3130761/top-120-prospect-list-for-2012-midseason-revision-update

The above is Sickels&#039; midyear list. Unless I&#039;m even worse at math than I think I am, Wong comes in at #16 among hitters.

The other guy? Keith Law won&#039;t like Wong until Kolten has played in his third All-Star game. Actually, even then Law will be patiently explaining to all us morons why Wong isn&#039;t as good as everyone *thinks* he is.

Law doesn&#039;t lack for intelligence, but he tends to stick to his established beliefs (e.g. Kolten Wong = hardworking, undersized, 2-WAR-upside non-athlete) even when overwhelming contradictory evidence bites him on the leg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/7/2/3130761/top-120-prospect-list-for-2012-midseason-revision-update" rel="nofollow">http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/7/2/3130761/top-120-prospect-list-for-2012-midseason-revision-update</a></p>
<p>The above is Sickels&#8217; midyear list. Unless I&#8217;m even worse at math than I think I am, Wong comes in at #16 among hitters.</p>
<p>The other guy? Keith Law won&#8217;t like Wong until Kolten has played in his third All-Star game. Actually, even then Law will be patiently explaining to all us morons why Wong isn&#8217;t as good as everyone *thinks* he is.</p>
<p>Law doesn&#8217;t lack for intelligence, but he tends to stick to his established beliefs (e.g. Kolten Wong = hardworking, undersized, 2-WAR-upside non-athlete) even when overwhelming contradictory evidence bites him on the leg.</p>
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		<title>By: zuke354</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuke354</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think he had him that high did he?  I don&#039;t think law had him ranked at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he had him that high did he?  I don&#8217;t think law had him ranked at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirtbag Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirtbag Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont care where anyone ranks Oscar as long as he becomes a All-Star in the Big leagues...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont care where anyone ranks Oscar as long as he becomes a All-Star in the Big leagues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Sickels had Kolten the #16 position prospect mid-season, so with a few superior 2012 draftees added, but with 5-6 of the mid-year guys above him promoted to The Show, I suspect Wong will still be among his top 20-25 position players, even with Kolten&#039;s second half slide. Good bat, good glove, good baserunner, and great work ethic. Looks like a 3-5 WAR guy in his prime, and maybe even a bit more.

One guy I omitted above, and would like to look at a bit closer, is Tyler Lyons. The southpaw was merely okay for Palm Beach in 2011 -- especially considering he was already 23 at the time.

But then he was solid at Springfield to start this year, and his sturdy 15 starts for Memphis kinda got lost amidst all the Shelby Miller hubbub. For Memphis, Lyons raised his K rate to 9-per-9, while simultaneously lowering his walk rate from its previous (acceptable) levels.

Putting his performance into context: In the PCL, of the two dozen pitchers (starters &amp; bullpenners) who fanned at least a better-per-inning, Tyler had the finest K/BB ratio, checking in at nearly 5-1.

Moreover, that&#039;s after Lyons got off to a bumpy beginning in AAA; over his final dozen starts, he whiffed 76 men in 73 innings, while issuing just 13 free passes. 

That&#039;s a 24-year-old lefty, striking out a batter an inning in AAA, with a nearly 6-1 K-BB, over the course of two months. Under other circumstances, I might sound the LOOGY alarm...but Tyler was as solid against righties as lefties.

Yes, he was a bit old for a &quot;true&quot; AAA prospect, *but* he was already 22 when the Birds swiped him in the 9th round of the 2010 draft. To be succeeding in AAA just two short years later...well, it&#039;s almost Rosenthalian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Sickels had Kolten the #16 position prospect mid-season, so with a few superior 2012 draftees added, but with 5-6 of the mid-year guys above him promoted to The Show, I suspect Wong will still be among his top 20-25 position players, even with Kolten&#8217;s second half slide. Good bat, good glove, good baserunner, and great work ethic. Looks like a 3-5 WAR guy in his prime, and maybe even a bit more.</p>
<p>One guy I omitted above, and would like to look at a bit closer, is Tyler Lyons. The southpaw was merely okay for Palm Beach in 2011 &#8212; especially considering he was already 23 at the time.</p>
<p>But then he was solid at Springfield to start this year, and his sturdy 15 starts for Memphis kinda got lost amidst all the Shelby Miller hubbub. For Memphis, Lyons raised his K rate to 9-per-9, while simultaneously lowering his walk rate from its previous (acceptable) levels.</p>
<p>Putting his performance into context: In the PCL, of the two dozen pitchers (starters &amp; bullpenners) who fanned at least a better-per-inning, Tyler had the finest K/BB ratio, checking in at nearly 5-1.</p>
<p>Moreover, that&#8217;s after Lyons got off to a bumpy beginning in AAA; over his final dozen starts, he whiffed 76 men in 73 innings, while issuing just 13 free passes. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a 24-year-old lefty, striking out a batter an inning in AAA, with a nearly 6-1 K-BB, over the course of two months. Under other circumstances, I might sound the LOOGY alarm&#8230;but Tyler was as solid against righties as lefties.</p>
<p>Yes, he was a bit old for a &#8220;true&#8221; AAA prospect, *but* he was already 22 when the Birds swiped him in the 9th round of the 2010 draft. To be succeeding in AAA just two short years later&#8230;well, it&#8217;s almost Rosenthalian!</p>
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		<title>By: cardini99</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya true...but definately think Wacha is top 100 pretty easy, and ya Piscotty has to be included as well in the Cardinal list]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya true&#8230;but definately think Wacha is top 100 pretty easy, and ya Piscotty has to be included as well in the Cardinal list</p>
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		<title>By: Cardinals645</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cardinals645</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That list is basically worthless. Pay it no mind. Wacha seems like a top 100 guy to me, but I haven&#039;t really looked at other team&#039;s prospects. My bigger issue is with Gast at 9, Blazek on it at all, and Piscotty left off entirely, etc. Wait until BA, BP, Sickels, and KLaw put out their lists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That list is basically worthless. Pay it no mind. Wacha seems like a top 100 guy to me, but I haven&#8217;t really looked at other team&#8217;s prospects. My bigger issue is with Gast at 9, Blazek on it at all, and Piscotty left off entirely, etc. Wait until BA, BP, Sickels, and KLaw put out their lists.</p>
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